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	The name "Native Americans" is controversial because some indigenous Americans have disputed that it is improper that they, being the original Americans, should be the ones to receive a moniker to distinguish them from the "foreign Americans" that conquered them. For that reason Canadians prefer the term "First Indians". Wikipedia sometimes prefers the term "American Indian" or "Amerindian" which while controversial as well because it's a misnomer stemming from Columbus's mistaken assumption that they're Indians, some indigenous Americans actually prefer it because there's no inherent negative connotation tied to the name "Indian". I understand that Native Americans is fine if these are all from the area that would become the United States because then the term would be neutral by the mere fact that that's the conventional term in the United States, but plenty of these, such as Aztecs, Incas, Maya, Inuits are not from the the region that would become the United States. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:26, July 4, 2017 (UTC)		The name "Native Americans" is controversial because some indigenous Americans have disputed that it is improper that they, being the original Americans, should be the ones to receive a moniker to distinguish them from the "foreign Americans" that conquered them. For that reason Canadians prefer the term "First Indians". Wikipedia sometimes prefers the term "American Indian" or "Amerindian" which while controversial as well because it's a misnomer stemming from Columbus's mistaken assumption that they're Indians, some indigenous Americans actually prefer it because there's no inherent negative connotation tied to the name "Indian". I understand that Native Americans is fine if these are all from the area that would become the United States because then the term would be neutral by the mere fact that that's the conventional term in the United States, but plenty of these, such as Aztecs, Incas, Maya, Inuits are not from the the region that would become the United States. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:26, July 4, 2017 (UTC)

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	:While I agree that Native American may be a bit improper I can't think of a proper replacement term. Indigenous Americans? Aboriginal Americans? As for your last point, sure they're not from the territories that would become U.S.A. but are most definitely Natives of (the) America(s). America is more than just the US. — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 00:38, July 5, 2017 (UTC)		:While I agree that Native American may be a bit improper I can't think of a proper replacement term. Indigenous Americans? Aboriginal Americans? As for your last point, sure they're not from the territories that would become U.S.A. but are most definitely Natives of (the) America(s). America is more than just the US. — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 00:38, July 5, 2017 (UTC)
	::"Indigenous peoples of the Americas" is what Wikipedia uses. While long-winded, I think it's entirely fine. "Indigenous Americans" also work to me. For your last point, another criticism of "Native American" is that technically any person born in the United States or by extension, the Americas, is a native American, even if he were of African or European descent. The same does not hold true for the term "indigenous". [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 00:48, July 5, 2017 (UTC)		::"Indigenous peoples of the Americas" is what Wikipedia uses. While long-winded, I think it's entirely fine. "Indigenous Americans" also work to me. For your last point, another criticism of "Native American" is that technically any person born in the United States or by extension, the Americas, is a native American, even if he were of African or European descent. The same does not hold true for the term "indigenous". [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 00:48, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

			I just realized that the Category:Indigenous peoples of the Americas has been around since forever. This category of Native Americans is totally a duplicate. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 21:39, July 15, 2017 (UTC)

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	The name "Native Americans" is controversial because some indigenous Americans have disputed that it is improper that they, being the original Americans, should be the ones to receive a moniker to distinguish them from the "foreign Americans" that conquered them. For that reason Canadians prefer the term "First Indians". Wikipedia sometimes prefers the term "American Indian" or "Amerindian" which while controversial as well because it's a misnomer stemming from Columbus's mistaken assumption that they're Indians, some indigenous Americans actually prefer it because there's no inherent negative connotation tied to the name "Indian". I understand that Native Americans is fine if these are all from the area that would become the United States because then the term would be neutral by the mere fact that that's the conventional term in the United States, but plenty of these, such as Aztecs, Incas, Maya, Inuits are not from the the region that would become the United States. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:26, July 4, 2017 (UTC)		The name "Native Americans" is controversial because some indigenous Americans have disputed that it is improper that they, being the original Americans, should be the ones to receive a moniker to distinguish them from the "foreign Americans" that conquered them. For that reason Canadians prefer the term "First Indians". Wikipedia sometimes prefers the term "American Indian" or "Amerindian" which while controversial as well because it's a misnomer stemming from Columbus's mistaken assumption that they're Indians, some indigenous Americans actually prefer it because there's no inherent negative connotation tied to the name "Indian". I understand that Native Americans is fine if these are all from the area that would become the United States because then the term would be neutral by the mere fact that that's the conventional term in the United States, but plenty of these, such as Aztecs, Incas, Maya, Inuits are not from the the region that would become the United States. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:26, July 4, 2017 (UTC)
	:While I agree that Native American may be a bit improper I can't think of a proper replacement term. Indigenous Americans? Aboriginal Americans? As for your last point, sure they're not from the territories that would become U.S.A. but are most definitely Natives of (the) America(s). America is more than just the US. — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 00:38, July 5, 2017 (UTC)		:While I agree that Native American may be a bit improper I can't think of a proper replacement term. Indigenous Americans? Aboriginal Americans? As for your last point, sure they're not from the territories that would become U.S.A. but are most definitely Natives of (the) America(s). America is more than just the US. — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 00:38, July 5, 2017 (UTC)
			::"Indigenous peoples of the Americas" is what Wikipedia uses. While long-winded, I think it's entirely fine. "Indigenous Americans" also work to me. For your last point, another criticism of "Native American" is that technically any person born in the United States or by extension, the Americas, is a native American, even if he were of African or European descent. The same does not hold true for the term "indigenous". [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 00:48, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

imported>Zero-ELEC: Indegenous peoples of the Americas?

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	The name "Native Americans" is controversial because some indigenous Americans have disputed that it is improper that they, being the original Americans, should be the ones to receive a moniker to distinguish them from the "foreign Americans" that conquered them. For that reason Canadians prefer the term "First Indians". Wikipedia sometimes prefers the term "American Indian" or "Amerindian" which while controversial as well because it's a misnomer stemming from Columbus's mistaken assumption that they're Indians, some indigenous Americans actually prefer it because there's no inherent negative connotation tied to the name "Indian". I understand that Native Americans is fine if these are all from the area that would become the United States because then the term would be neutral by the mere fact that that's the conventional term in the United States, but plenty of these, such as Aztecs, Incas, Maya, Inuits are not from the the region that would become the United States. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:26, July 4, 2017 (UTC)		The name "Native Americans" is controversial because some indigenous Americans have disputed that it is improper that they, being the original Americans, should be the ones to receive a moniker to distinguish them from the "foreign Americans" that conquered them. For that reason Canadians prefer the term "First Indians". Wikipedia sometimes prefers the term "American Indian" or "Amerindian" which while controversial as well because it's a misnomer stemming from Columbus's mistaken assumption that they're Indians, some indigenous Americans actually prefer it because there's no inherent negative connotation tied to the name "Indian". I understand that Native Americans is fine if these are all from the area that would become the United States because then the term would be neutral by the mere fact that that's the conventional term in the United States, but plenty of these, such as Aztecs, Incas, Maya, Inuits are not from the the region that would become the United States. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:26, July 4, 2017 (UTC)
			:While I agree that Native American may be a bit improper I can't think of a proper replacement term. Indigenous Americans? Aboriginal Americans? As for your last point, sure they're not from the territories that would become U.S.A. but are most definitely Natives of (the) America(s). America is more than just the US. — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 00:38, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

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The name "Native Americans" is controversial because some indigenous Americans have disputed that it is improper that they, being the original Americans, should be the ones to receive a moniker to distinguish them from the "foreign Americans" that conquered them. For that reason Canadians prefer the term "First Indians". Wikipedia sometimes prefers the term "American Indian" or "Amerindian" which while controversial as well because it's a misnomer stemming from Columbus's mistaken assumption that they're Indians, some indigenous Americans actually prefer it because there's no inherent negative connotation tied to the name "Indian". I understand that Native Americans is fine if these are all from the area that would become the United States because then the term would be neutral by the mere fact that that's the conventional term in the United States, but plenty of these, such as Aztecs, Incas, Maya, Inuits are not from the the region that would become the United States. [[User:Sol Pacificus|'''Sol Pacificus''']][[User talk:Sol Pacificus|(Cyfiero)]] 23:26, July 4, 2017 (UTC)

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	:While I agree that Native American may be a bit improper I can't think of a proper replacement term. Indigenous Americans? Aboriginal Americans? As for your last point, sure they're not from the territories that would become U.S.A. but are most definitely Natives of (the) America(s). America is more than just the US. — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 00:38, July 5, 2017 (UTC)		:While I agree that Native American may be a bit improper I can't think of a proper replacement term. Indigenous Americans? Aboriginal Americans? As for your last point, sure they're not from the territories that would become U.S.A. but are most definitely Natives of (the) America(s). America is more than just the US. — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 00:38, July 5, 2017 (UTC)
	::"Indigenous peoples of the Americas" is what Wikipedia uses. While long-winded, I think it's entirely fine. "Indigenous Americans" also work to me. For your last point, another criticism of "Native American" is that technically any person born in the United States or by extension, the Americas, is a native American, even if he were of African or European descent. The same does not hold true for the term "indigenous". [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 00:48, July 5, 2017 (UTC)		::"Indigenous peoples of the Americas" is what Wikipedia uses. While long-winded, I think it's entirely fine. "Indigenous Americans" also work to me. For your last point, another criticism of "Native American" is that technically any person born in the United States or by extension, the Americas, is a native American, even if he were of African or European descent. The same does not hold true for the term "indigenous". [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 00:48, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

			I just realized that the Category:Indigenous peoples of the Americas has been around since forever. This category of Native Americans is totally a duplicate. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 21:39, July 15, 2017 (UTC)

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	The name "Native Americans" is controversial because some indigenous Americans have disputed that it is improper that they, being the original Americans, should be the ones to receive a moniker to distinguish them from the "foreign Americans" that conquered them. For that reason Canadians prefer the term "First Indians". Wikipedia sometimes prefers the term "American Indian" or "Amerindian" which while controversial as well because it's a misnomer stemming from Columbus's mistaken assumption that they're Indians, some indigenous Americans actually prefer it because there's no inherent negative connotation tied to the name "Indian". I understand that Native Americans is fine if these are all from the area that would become the United States because then the term would be neutral by the mere fact that that's the conventional term in the United States, but plenty of these, such as Aztecs, Incas, Maya, Inuits are not from the the region that would become the United States. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:26, July 4, 2017 (UTC)		The name "Native Americans" is controversial because some indigenous Americans have disputed that it is improper that they, being the original Americans, should be the ones to receive a moniker to distinguish them from the "foreign Americans" that conquered them. For that reason Canadians prefer the term "First Indians". Wikipedia sometimes prefers the term "American Indian" or "Amerindian" which while controversial as well because it's a misnomer stemming from Columbus's mistaken assumption that they're Indians, some indigenous Americans actually prefer it because there's no inherent negative connotation tied to the name "Indian". I understand that Native Americans is fine if these are all from the area that would become the United States because then the term would be neutral by the mere fact that that's the conventional term in the United States, but plenty of these, such as Aztecs, Incas, Maya, Inuits are not from the the region that would become the United States. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:26, July 4, 2017 (UTC)
	:While I agree that Native American may be a bit improper I can't think of a proper replacement term. Indigenous Americans? Aboriginal Americans? As for your last point, sure they're not from the territories that would become U.S.A. but are most definitely Natives of (the) America(s). America is more than just the US. — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 00:38, July 5, 2017 (UTC)		:While I agree that Native American may be a bit improper I can't think of a proper replacement term. Indigenous Americans? Aboriginal Americans? As for your last point, sure they're not from the territories that would become U.S.A. but are most definitely Natives of (the) America(s). America is more than just the US. — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 00:38, July 5, 2017 (UTC)
			::"Indigenous peoples of the Americas" is what Wikipedia uses. While long-winded, I think it's entirely fine. "Indigenous Americans" also work to me. For your last point, another criticism of "Native American" is that technically any person born in the United States or by extension, the Americas, is a native American, even if he were of African or European descent. The same does not hold true for the term "indigenous". [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 00:48, July 5, 2017 (UTC)