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		<title>Soranin: Text replacement - &quot; &quot; to &quot; &quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Text replacement - &amp;quot; &amp;quot; to &amp;quot; &amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 00:34, 10 July 2026&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I agree with Nemesis and Jasca.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I agree with Nemesis and Jasca.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The word &quot;proto&quot;, according to the Dictionary of Cambridge, means &quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;first,&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; especially &lt;/del&gt;&#039;&#039;from which&#039;&#039; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;other similar things develop&lt;/del&gt;;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; original&lt;/del&gt;&quot;.&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; &lt;/del&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;The Order of Ancients already existed when the CoK was doing their things in the Greek World. In fact, the CoK was created around 6th–5th century BCE and the Order of Ancients was founded around 1334 BCE. Clearly, there&#039;s a difference. Also, the game states that Kassandra wiped out the Cult of Kosmos, this would be later confirmed by Pythagoras in the Cult Ending, the only survivor was Aspasia.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The word &quot;proto&quot;, according to the Dictionary of Cambridge, means &quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;first, &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;especially &lt;/ins&gt;&#039;&#039;from which&#039;&#039; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;other similar things develop&lt;/ins&gt;; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;original&lt;/ins&gt;&quot;. &#039;&#039;&#039;The Order of Ancients already existed when the CoK was doing their things in the Greek World. In fact, the CoK was created around 6th–5th century BCE and the Order of Ancients was founded around 1334 BCE. Clearly, there&#039;s a difference. Also, the game states that Kassandra wiped out the Cult of Kosmos, this would be later confirmed by Pythagoras in the Cult Ending, the only survivor was Aspasia.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The only way I can see the CoK as a Proto-Templar Organization is considering that Aspasia ended up joining the OoA. She says that they [the Cult] will be replaced by a new kind of Order, one lead by a Philosopher King, probably in the name of the Father of Understanding or she was directly speaking of Alexander the Great (A Templar/OoA Ally) and that it was her task finding this new republic. I think she joined them but that needs confirmation.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The only way I can see the CoK as a Proto-Templar Organization is considering that Aspasia ended up joining the OoA. She says that they [the Cult] will be replaced by a new kind of Order, one lead by a Philosopher King, probably in the name of the Father of Understanding or she was directly speaking of Alexander the Great (A Templar/OoA Ally) and that it was her task finding this new republic. I think she joined them but that needs confirmation.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Another alternative would be that the Order took something of the Cult and made it their own. Just like Darius, he wasn&#039;t an Assassin and the members of his group were killed on joined the OoA as well, but he&#039;s considered one because he created the Assassin&#039;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;s iconic &lt;/del&gt;weapon. Centuries later, in the Renaissance, he&#039;s posthumously honored with the title. The Children of Cain could be considered a Proto-Templar group, even when they were long before the OoA because they [OoA/Templar Order] took their insignia as they own when they became &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;a public &lt;/del&gt;military organization in 1119 CE.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Another alternative would be that the Order took something of the Cult and made it their own. Just like Darius, he wasn&#039;t an Assassin and the members of his group were killed on joined the OoA as well, but he&#039;s considered one because he created the Assassin&#039;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;s iconic &lt;/ins&gt;weapon. Centuries later, in the Renaissance, he&#039;s posthumously honored with the title. The Children of Cain could be considered a Proto-Templar group, even when they were long before the OoA because they [OoA/Templar Order] took their insignia as they own when they became &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;a public &lt;/ins&gt;military organization in 1119 CE.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;There are many groups that fight for freedom, but I think not all of them are necessary considered proto-assassins (unless they agreed to join the Hidden Ones/Assassin Brotherhood or they give something that helped the HO/AB in a way they could still exist). Same for the OoA/TO.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;There are many groups that fight for freedom, but I think not all of them are necessary considered proto-assassins (unless they agreed to join the Hidden Ones/Assassin Brotherhood or they give something that helped the HO/AB in a way they could still exist). Same for the OoA/TO.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>imported&gt;Cristophorus35: Created page with &quot;I agree with Nemesis and Jasca.  The word &quot;proto&quot;, according to the Dictionary of Cambridge, means &quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;first, especially &#039;&#039;from which&#039;&#039; other similar things develop; ori...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;I agree with Nemesis and Jasca.  The word &amp;quot;proto&amp;quot;, according to the Dictionary of Cambridge, means &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;first, especially &amp;#039;&amp;#039;from which&amp;#039;&amp;#039; other similar things develop; ori...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Páàjì titun&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;I agree with Nemesis and Jasca.&lt;br /&gt;
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The word &amp;quot;proto&amp;quot;, according to the Dictionary of Cambridge, means &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;first, especially &amp;#039;&amp;#039;from which&amp;#039;&amp;#039; other similar things develop; original&amp;quot;. &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;The Order of Ancients already existed when the CoK was doing their things in the Greek World. In fact, the CoK was created around 6th–5th century BCE and the Order of Ancients was founded around 1334 BCE. Clearly, there&amp;#039;s a difference. Also, the game states that Kassandra wiped out the Cult of Kosmos, this would be later confirmed by Pythagoras in the Cult Ending, the only survivor was Aspasia.&lt;br /&gt;
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The only way I can see the CoK as a Proto-Templar Organization is considering that Aspasia ended up joining the OoA. She says that they [the Cult] will be replaced by a new kind of Order, one lead by a Philosopher King, probably in the name of the Father of Understanding or she was directly speaking of Alexander the Great (A Templar/OoA Ally) and that it was her task finding this new republic. I think she joined them but that needs confirmation.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another alternative would be that the Order took something of the Cult and made it their own. Just like Darius, he wasn&amp;#039;t an Assassin and the members of his group were killed on joined the OoA as well, but he&amp;#039;s considered one because he created the Assassin&amp;#039;s iconic weapon. Centuries later, in the Renaissance, he&amp;#039;s posthumously honored with the title. The Children of Cain could be considered a Proto-Templar group, even when they were long before the OoA because they [OoA/Templar Order] took their insignia as they own when they became a public military organization in 1119 CE.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are many groups that fight for freedom, but I think not all of them are necessary considered proto-assassins (unless they agreed to join the Hidden Ones/Assassin Brotherhood or they give something that helped the HO/AB in a way they could still exist). Same for the OoA/TO.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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