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		<title>imported&gt;Sol Pacificus: Created page with &quot;So here are my answers to those questions: #Yes I think it is a good idea to merge &quot;Hidden Ones&quot; with &quot;Assassins and &quot;Order of the Ancients&quot; with &quot;Templars&quot; for better organiz...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;So here are my answers to those questions: #Yes I think it is a good idea to merge &amp;quot;Hidden Ones&amp;quot; with &amp;quot;Assassins and &amp;quot;Order of the Ancients&amp;quot; with &amp;quot;Templars&amp;quot; for better organiz...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Páàjì titun&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;So here are my answers to those questions:&lt;br /&gt;
#Yes I think it is a good idea to merge &amp;quot;Hidden Ones&amp;quot; with &amp;quot;Assassins and &amp;quot;Order of the Ancients&amp;quot; with &amp;quot;Templars&amp;quot; for better organization. Even though we could say that &amp;quot;Assassins&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Templars&amp;quot; would only touch upon the Hidden Ones and OotA briefly, at the end of the day, I think three pages which leads with &amp;quot;Hidden Ones&amp;quot; is too confusing for readers. It is also confusing for me when linking. We should, of course, keep &amp;quot;Egyptian Brotherhood of Assassins&amp;quot; separate but our writing in it currently makes it confusing whether &amp;quot;Hidden Ones&amp;quot; is an older name of that particular branch or the name of the Assassins at the time of its origin.&lt;br /&gt;
#Looks like we&amp;#039;ll have to wait for &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Valhalla&amp;#039;&amp;#039; to confirm, but in the meantime, I think we can use &amp;quot;Assassin&amp;quot; retrospectively for all Assassin groups from the founding of the Hidden Ones to the founding of the Assassin state.&lt;br /&gt;
#I would have argued for renaming both pages, but since you guys have pointed out that Artabanus&amp;#039; group was destroyed—I would not know because I still haven&amp;#039;t finished the DLC—then it would merit its own article. Of course, &amp;quot;Persian Brotherhood&amp;quot; should still mention them as their predecessor. On the other hand, I reaffirm my position that &amp;quot;Iltani&amp;#039;s Order&amp;quot; should be renamed to &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot;, canonical name over conjectural name. I think editing based on what we infer to be retcons can be problematic based on Zero&amp;#039;s examples to me earlier about my poor citations in &amp;quot;Persian Brotherhood&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
#Exactly the same as what Sima expressed. I don&amp;#039;t necessarily agree with it, but sourcing would dictate that she should be at least categorized as such.&lt;br /&gt;
#As I said, I support both my initial proposition and Zero&amp;#039;s bolder one. Either one is fine by me. Of course, we must clarify in the article how later Assassins treat these figures as Assassins retrospectively though.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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