Assassin's Creed Wiki talk:Writing Tense - Revision history

imported>The Crimson Eagle: /* Wrong tense everywhere */

2013-04-04T21:15:05Z

Wrong tense everywhere

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	:::: We have it in past tense because, well, it all "happened" hundreds of years ago. --[[User:The Forgotten Fragment\|<span style="font-family:Copperplate Gothic Bold;font-size:16px;color:#A3E3ED;">Fragment</span>]] [[User talk:The Forgotten Fragment\|<sup><span style="font-family:times new roman;color:orange;">-Animus-</span></sup>]] 00:01, April 4, 2013 (UTC)		:::: We have it in past tense because, well, it all "happened" hundreds of years ago. --[[User:The Forgotten Fragment\|<span style="font-family:Copperplate Gothic Bold;font-size:16px;color:#A3E3ED;">Fragment</span>]] [[User talk:The Forgotten Fragment\|<sup><span style="font-family:times new roman;color:orange;">-Animus-</span></sup>]] 00:01, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
	:::::But not all of it did. Technically, the memories are being relived in the present and the multiplayer matches are supposed to be taking place in the present. [[User:Alpha1ance\|Alpha1ance]] ([[User talk:Alpha1ance\|talk]]) 21:13, April 4, 2013 (UTC)		:::::But not all of it did. Technically, the memories are being relived in the present and the multiplayer matches are supposed to be taking place in the present. [[User:Alpha1ance\|Alpha1ance]] ([[User talk:Alpha1ance\|talk]]) 21:13, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
			No, the memories were relived last year. Which is in the past. --{{User:The Crimson Eagle/sig}} 21:15, April 4, 2013 (UTC)

imported>Alpha1ance at 21:13, 4 April 2013

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	:::: We have it in past tense because, well, it all "happened" hundreds of years ago. --[[User:The Forgotten Fragment\|<span style="font-family:Copperplate Gothic Bold;font-size:16px;color:#A3E3ED;">Fragment</span>]] [[User talk:The Forgotten Fragment\|<sup><span style="font-family:times new roman;color:orange;">-Animus-</span></sup>]] 00:01, April 4, 2013 (UTC)		:::: We have it in past tense because, well, it all "happened" hundreds of years ago. --[[User:The Forgotten Fragment\|<span style="font-family:Copperplate Gothic Bold;font-size:16px;color:#A3E3ED;">Fragment</span>]] [[User talk:The Forgotten Fragment\|<sup><span style="font-family:times new roman;color:orange;">-Animus-</span></sup>]] 00:01, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
			:::::But not all of it did. Technically, the memories are being relived in the present and the multiplayer matches are supposed to be taking place in the present. [[User:Alpha1ance\|Alpha1ance]] ([[User talk:Alpha1ance\|talk]]) 21:13, April 4, 2013 (UTC)

imported>The Forgotten Fragment: /* Wrong tense everywhere */

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Wrong tense everywhere

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	::::Other editors do notice this. We just stop trying to fix it because the mods just undo all the revisions making it feel pointless. Therefore taking away the point of a user based wiki [[User:Alpha1ance\|Alpha1ance]] ([[User talk:Alpha1ance\|talk]]) 15:00, December 17, 2012 (UTC)		::::Other editors do notice this. We just stop trying to fix it because the mods just undo all the revisions making it feel pointless. Therefore taking away the point of a user based wiki [[User:Alpha1ance\|Alpha1ance]] ([[User talk:Alpha1ance\|talk]]) 15:00, December 17, 2012 (UTC)
	::::Agree, past tense everywhere feels so wrong. It really makes it more difficult to understand. I'm very reluctant to use AC wikia, and I use other ressources as far as possible if Google present other choices. [[Special:Contributions/78.141.132.241\|78.141.132.241]] 23:44, April 3, 2013 (UTC)		::::Agree, past tense everywhere feels so wrong. It really makes it more difficult to understand. I'm very reluctant to use AC wikia, and I use other ressources as far as possible if Google present other choices. [[Special:Contributions/78.141.132.241\|78.141.132.241]] 23:44, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

			:::: We have it in past tense because, well, it all "happened" hundreds of years ago. --[[User:The Forgotten Fragment\|<span style="font-family:Copperplate Gothic Bold;font-size:16px;color:#A3E3ED;">Fragment</span>]] [[User talk:The Forgotten Fragment\|<sup><span style="font-family:times new roman;color:orange;">-Animus-</span></sup>]] 00:01, April 4, 2013 (UTC)

78.141.132.241: /* Wrong tense everywhere */

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	::::Other editors do notice this. We just stop trying to fix it because the mods just undo all the revisions making it feel pointless. Therefore taking away the point of a user based wiki [[User:Alpha1ance\|Alpha1ance]] ([[User talk:Alpha1ance\|talk]]) 15:00, December 17, 2012 (UTC)		::::Other editors do notice this. We just stop trying to fix it because the mods just undo all the revisions making it feel pointless. Therefore taking away the point of a user based wiki [[User:Alpha1ance\|Alpha1ance]] ([[User talk:Alpha1ance\|talk]]) 15:00, December 17, 2012 (UTC)
			::::Agree, past tense everywhere feels so wrong. It really makes it more difficult to understand. I'm very reluctant to use AC wikia, and I use other ressources as far as possible if Google present other choices. [[Special:Contributions/78.141.132.241\|78.141.132.241]] 23:44, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

imported>Alpha1ance at 15:00, 17 December 2012

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	:::It's probably kind of late at this point but another example of this incorrect tense is the [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed_III_outfits outfits] page (go figure, another gameplay related article). This is information about the game, not the in-game universe. The entire encyclopedia should not be written as if they actually happened or as if at some point in the past the gameplay somehow translated to reality. For example, "In Assassin's Creed III, several outfits were available to those who completed certain challenges or met specific criteria, which are listed below." This is not normal encyclopedic writing. No other wiki does this. Why does nobody on this site see it? [[Special:Contributions/108.27.17.117\|108.27.17.117]] 03:42, December 17, 2012 (UTC)		:::It's probably kind of late at this point but another example of this incorrect tense is the [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed_III_outfits outfits] page (go figure, another gameplay related article). This is information about the game, not the in-game universe. The entire encyclopedia should not be written as if they actually happened or as if at some point in the past the gameplay somehow translated to reality. For example, "In Assassin's Creed III, several outfits were available to those who completed certain challenges or met specific criteria, which are listed below." This is not normal encyclopedic writing. No other wiki does this. Why does nobody on this site see it? [[Special:Contributions/108.27.17.117\|108.27.17.117]] 03:42, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

			::::Other editors do notice this. We just stop trying to fix it because the mods just undo all the revisions making it feel pointless. Therefore taking away the point of a user based wiki [[User:Alpha1ance\|Alpha1ance]] ([[User talk:Alpha1ance\|talk]]) 15:00, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

108.27.17.117: /* Wrong tense everywhere */

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	::The only time that using any other tense is acceptable is in the trivia section of an article's page.[[User:Slate Vesper\|Slate Vesper]] 02:34, March 28, 2012 (UTC)		::The only time that using any other tense is acceptable is in the trivia section of an article's page.[[User:Slate Vesper\|Slate Vesper]] 02:34, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

			::This response makes no sense. It's completely self-contradictory. Yes Assassin's Creed is a fictional universe. Ergo, why is the whole wiki written like the events of the game actually happened (which is to say all in past tense)? Writing it like that gives the sense that this wiki is written by someone within the universe, which while it makes no sense from an encyclopedic POV might have been bearable, but then we have sections about gameplay written in past tense. I don't understand why only trivia gets to be treated normally (thank god), but gameplay isn't.

			::In any case, I really think the writers here need to read other video game wikis and take notes because you seriously got it wrong here. [[Special:Contributions/108.27.17.117\|108.27.17.117]] 03:54, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

	:::Also, you claim that it is a rule of English that things be written in present tense. That is completely and utterly false and untrue; things can be written in any tense and are not required to be in present tense. Learn common sense before you go insulting the good, hardworking writers of this awesome place. They know what they're doing, and have been doing everything incredibly well, while you seem to be incapable of comprehending common sense. --[[Special:Contributions/50.78.212.237\|50.78.212.237]] 02:45, March 28, 2012 (UTC)		:::Also, you claim that it is a rule of English that things be written in present tense. That is completely and utterly false and untrue; things can be written in any tense and are not required to be in present tense. Learn common sense before you go insulting the good, hardworking writers of this awesome place. They know what they're doing, and have been doing everything incredibly well, while you seem to be incapable of comprehending common sense. --[[Special:Contributions/50.78.212.237\|50.78.212.237]] 02:45, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

108.27.17.117: /* Wrong tense everywhere */

2012-12-17T03:42:15Z

Wrong tense everywhere

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	::The past tense is especially troublesome when it's dealing with gameplay tips like in the Guild Challenge sections. No, in-universe Ezio did not at any point hold down the A button or get an Xbox achievement. Yet that's how it's written. I can understand in-universe past tense for the plot sections of the wiki, that's fine-- questionable-- but fine. But for gameplay descriptions? It comes off as entirely farcical. [[Special:Contributions/68.60.33.104\|68.60.33.104]] 09:47, August 13, 2012 (UTC)		::The past tense is especially troublesome when it's dealing with gameplay tips like in the Guild Challenge sections. No, in-universe Ezio did not at any point hold down the A button or get an Xbox achievement. Yet that's how it's written. I can understand in-universe past tense for the plot sections of the wiki, that's fine-- questionable-- but fine. But for gameplay descriptions? It comes off as entirely farcical. [[Special:Contributions/68.60.33.104\|68.60.33.104]] 09:47, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

	:::I agree with a lot of what the administators and veteran posters are saying, I know that past tense is something you guys have been doing for a while, but I do have to say it's not grammatically correct. My best examples of this are seen in the multiplayer sections.		:::I agree with a lot of what the administators and veteran posters are saying, I know that past tense is something you guys have been doing for a while, but I do have to say it's not grammatically correct. My best examples of this are seen in the multiplayer sections.
	:::"Wanted was a virtual training mode" implies that it is no longer used. The grammatically correct sentence would obviously be "Wanted is a virtual training mode."		:::"Wanted was a virtual training mode" implies that it is no longer used. The grammatically correct sentence would obviously be "Wanted is a virtual training mode."
	:::Past tense is used for historical context, a terminated session, or something no longer in use. While it can be used for telling the stories of the assassins as they have passed, it is not grammatically correct when speaking of gameplay. [[User:Alpha1ance\|Alpha1ance]] ([[User talk:Alpha1ance\|talk]]) 19:53, November 3, 2012 (UTC)		:::Past tense is used for historical context, a terminated session, or something no longer in use. While it can be used for telling the stories of the assassins as they have passed, it is not grammatically correct when speaking of gameplay. [[User:Alpha1ance\|Alpha1ance]] ([[User talk:Alpha1ance\|talk]]) 19:53, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

			:::It's probably kind of late at this point but another example of this incorrect tense is the [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed_III_outfits outfits] page (go figure, another gameplay related article). This is information about the game, not the in-game universe. The entire encyclopedia should not be written as if they actually happened or as if at some point in the past the gameplay somehow translated to reality. For example, "In Assassin's Creed III, several outfits were available to those who completed certain challenges or met specific criteria, which are listed below." This is not normal encyclopedic writing. No other wiki does this. Why does nobody on this site see it? [[Special:Contributions/108.27.17.117\|108.27.17.117]] 03:42, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

imported>Alpha1ance: /* Wrong tense everywhere */

2012-11-05T01:55:16Z

Wrong tense everywhere

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	::The past tense is especially troublesome when it's dealing with gameplay tips like in the Guild Challenge sections. No, in-universe Ezio did not at any point hold down the A button or get an Xbox achievement. Yet that's how it's written. I can understand in-universe past tense for the plot sections of the wiki, that's fine-- questionable-- but fine. But for gameplay descriptions? It comes off as entirely farcical. [[Special:Contributions/68.60.33.104\|68.60.33.104]] 09:47, August 13, 2012 (UTC)		::The past tense is especially troublesome when it's dealing with gameplay tips like in the Guild Challenge sections. No, in-universe Ezio did not at any point hold down the A button or get an Xbox achievement. Yet that's how it's written. I can understand in-universe past tense for the plot sections of the wiki, that's fine-- questionable-- but fine. But for gameplay descriptions? It comes off as entirely farcical. [[Special:Contributions/68.60.33.104\|68.60.33.104]] 09:47, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

	:::I agree with a lot of what ~~you admins~~ and veteran posters are saying ~~and~~ I know that past tense is something you guys have been doing for a while but I do have to say it's not grammatically correct ~~a lot of the times I see it here~~. My best examples of this are the multiplayer sections.		:::I agree with a lot of what the administators and veteran posters are saying, I know that past tense is something you guys have been doing for a while, but I do have to say it's not grammatically correct. My best examples of this are seen in the multiplayer sections.
	:::"Wanted was a virtual training mode" implies that it is no longer used. The grammatically correct sentence would obviously be "Wanted is a virtual training mode."		:::"Wanted was a virtual training mode" implies that it is no longer used. The grammatically correct sentence would obviously be "Wanted is a virtual training mode."
	:::Past tense is used for historical context, a terminated session, or something no longer in use. While it can be used for ~~tell~~ the stories of the assassins as they have ~~past~~ it is not grammatically correct when speaking of gameplay. [[User:Alpha1ance\|Alpha1ance]] ([[User talk:Alpha1ance\|talk]]) 19:53, November 3, 2012 (UTC)		:::Past tense is used for historical context, a terminated session, or something no longer in use. While it can be used for telling the stories of the assassins as they have passed, it is not grammatically correct when speaking of gameplay. [[User:Alpha1ance\|Alpha1ance]] ([[User talk:Alpha1ance\|talk]]) 19:53, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

imported>Alpha1ance: /* Wrong tense everywhere */

2012-11-03T19:53:10Z

Wrong tense everywhere

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	::The past tense is especially troublesome when it's dealing with gameplay tips like in the Guild Challenge sections. No, in-universe Ezio did not at any point hold down the A button or get an Xbox achievement. Yet that's how it's written. I can understand in-universe past tense for the plot sections of the wiki, that's fine-- questionable-- but fine. But for gameplay descriptions? It comes off as entirely farcical. [[Special:Contributions/68.60.33.104\|68.60.33.104]] 09:47, August 13, 2012 (UTC)		::The past tense is especially troublesome when it's dealing with gameplay tips like in the Guild Challenge sections. No, in-universe Ezio did not at any point hold down the A button or get an Xbox achievement. Yet that's how it's written. I can understand in-universe past tense for the plot sections of the wiki, that's fine-- questionable-- but fine. But for gameplay descriptions? It comes off as entirely farcical. [[Special:Contributions/68.60.33.104\|68.60.33.104]] 09:47, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

			:::I agree with a lot of what you admins and veteran posters are saying and I know that past tense is something you guys have been doing for a while but I do have to say it's not grammatically correct a lot of the times I see it here. My best examples of this are the multiplayer sections.
			:::"Wanted was a virtual training mode" implies that it is no longer used. The grammatically correct sentence would obviously be "Wanted is a virtual training mode."
			:::Past tense is used for historical context, a terminated session, or something no longer in use. While it can be used for tell the stories of the assassins as they have past it is not grammatically correct when speaking of gameplay. [[User:Alpha1ance\|Alpha1ance]] ([[User talk:Alpha1ance\|talk]]) 19:53, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

68.60.33.104: /* Wrong tense everywhere */

2012-08-13T09:47:53Z

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	:::Also, you claim that it is a rule of English that things be written in present tense. That is completely and utterly false and untrue; things can be written in any tense and are not required to be in present tense. Learn common sense before you go insulting the good, hardworking writers of this awesome place. They know what they're doing, and have been doing everything incredibly well, while you seem to be incapable of comprehending common sense. --[[Special:Contributions/50.78.212.237\|50.78.212.237]] 02:45, March 28, 2012 (UTC)		:::Also, you claim that it is a rule of English that things be written in present tense. That is completely and utterly false and untrue; things can be written in any tense and are not required to be in present tense. Learn common sense before you go insulting the good, hardworking writers of this awesome place. They know what they're doing, and have been doing everything incredibly well, while you seem to be incapable of comprehending common sense. --[[Special:Contributions/50.78.212.237\|50.78.212.237]] 02:45, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

			::The past tense is especially troublesome when it's dealing with gameplay tips like in the Guild Challenge sections. No, in-universe Ezio did not at any point hold down the A button or get an Xbox achievement. Yet that's how it's written. I can understand in-universe past tense for the plot sections of the wiki, that's fine-- questionable-- but fine. But for gameplay descriptions? It comes off as entirely farcical. [[Special:Contributions/68.60.33.104\|68.60.33.104]] 09:47, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

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	::::Other editors do notice this. We just stop trying to fix it because the mods just undo all the revisions making it feel pointless. Therefore taking away the point of a user based wiki [[User:Alpha1ance\|Alpha1ance]] ([[User talk:Alpha1ance\|talk]]) 15:00, December 17, 2012 (UTC)		::::Other editors do notice this. We just stop trying to fix it because the mods just undo all the revisions making it feel pointless. Therefore taking away the point of a user based wiki [[User:Alpha1ance\|Alpha1ance]] ([[User talk:Alpha1ance\|talk]]) 15:00, December 17, 2012 (UTC)
	::::Agree, past tense everywhere feels so wrong. It really makes it more difficult to understand. I'm very reluctant to use AC wikia, and I use other ressources as far as possible if Google present other choices. [[Special:Contributions/78.141.132.241\|78.141.132.241]] 23:44, April 3, 2013 (UTC)		::::Agree, past tense everywhere feels so wrong. It really makes it more difficult to understand. I'm very reluctant to use AC wikia, and I use other ressources as far as possible if Google present other choices. [[Special:Contributions/78.141.132.241\|78.141.132.241]] 23:44, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

			:::: We have it in past tense because, well, it all "happened" hundreds of years ago. --[[User:The Forgotten Fragment\|<span style="font-family:Copperplate Gothic Bold;font-size:16px;color:#A3E3ED;">Fragment</span>]] [[User talk:The Forgotten Fragment\|<sup><span style="font-family:times new roman;color:orange;">-Animus-</span></sup>]] 00:01, April 4, 2013 (UTC)