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2012-02-13T19:25:28Z

89.122.249.160: /* Assassin's Creed 3= 3 hidden blades? */

{{Talkheader}}

==Finger amputation==

"This amputation is part of the initiation into the Hashshashin sect, which the Assassins are based on." To me, this sounds like the real life assassins did that. I thought that was an in-game contrivance? If it's real, and they really did do that, could someone source that? And, if not, could it please be reworded? Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/90.206.121.92|90.206.121.92]] 09:54, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

:"[http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Patrice_Desilets Patrice Desilets], the creative director of the game stated that the addition of a second blade in ''Assassin's Creed II'' also had a lucid reason: it's the sequel, it's Assassin's Creed II so there are 2 blades."

::Cool, so Assassin's Creed 3 will have 3 blades? Then where will it be :D [[Special:Contributions/203.162.3.165|203.162.3.165]] 14:06, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

:::If there was a third, it would probably be on his foot or something... ([[User:J.h.jaraub|J.h.jaraub]] 20:18, January 18, 2010 (UTC))

::::I agree--[[User:Stomping|Sangheili wunna be]] 21:33, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

:::::I agree aswell. The future assassin would most likely have a mechanism under his foot that pops out a blade for kick-stabbing or something. Anyone see Deadliest Warrior: CIA vs. KGB? Apparently KGB dudes have foot-blades lol. [[User:DracoX872|DracoX872]] 02:43, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

::::::theres some production art of ezio with two hidden blades on the same hand, it really cool looking. i dont know what practical purpose that would have, but its possible. [[User:CarloGrimaldi|CarloGrimaldi]] 00:40, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

:::::::Hidden blades have changed loads over the years..... The most recent I've seen are one's that if flicked one way, the blade comes out the wirst (Like Ezio's and Altair's) and if balled into a fist, a blade will come out from the knuckles making a punch attack more fatal...... I've even seen ballistics hidden blades that when the pin is pulled, gunpowder ignites and the knife shoots out at distance like a throwing knife........ [[User:EchoAltair|EchoAltair]] 00:52, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
:::::::
:::::::What I don't get is why does Altair use a button to realise the blade in one of the E3 trailers?[[User:The Loyal Recruit|The Loyal Recruit]] 19:27, May 16, 2011 (UTC)
:::::::
:::::::

==History==

Guys, this article needs a History section, comprising everyhting that happened and explaining exactly what the hell is a hidden blade, not it's "uses". Like, when it was invented, who was the first known guy to use it, the rituals involving it in the crusade, the importance it had in Altaïr's mission, the upgrades made via Codex, the reconstruction by Leonardo da Vinci, etc. -- [[User:D. Cello|D. Cello]] 22:07, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

:What I wanna know is how it works.
::Ask nicely. -- [[User:D. Cello|D. Cello]] 05:23, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
:::I know how 'real' hidden blades work (much different to gameplay usage) and I also know why they were invented but don't know how I would put it in the article without it relating to the gameplay.......[[User:EchoAltair|EchoAltair]] 00:58, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

::::most people have an idea on how to make a springloaded blade pop out. but how do you make it retract ?
:::::Simple... but I'm not telling you, cause it is *not related to the article*! -- [[User:D. Cello|D. Cello]] 22:34, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
==Improvements?==
Hey guys, what improvements does this article need? Can someone please make a bulleted list or something that way everyone can help add it on? [[User:DracoX872|DracoX872]] 02:46, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
:If there is one thing that this article is missing is mention of desmond's hidden blade, from the looks of it it is moere modern and significantly smaller, also the scenes where Ezio uses his blade as a lock pick. - anon

==Article Name?==

Should the B for blade be a capital? In-game it is... [[User:The_Theif|'''The Thief ''']] 13:23, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

:Definitely. In-game is godly-canon. :P --[[User:Piratehunter|'''''P''''''''''i''''''''''r''''''''''a''''''''''t''''''''''e''''''''''h''''''''''u''''''''''n''''''''''t''''''''''e''''''''''r''''']] ([[User talk:Piratehunter|Talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Piratehunter|Contribs]]) 16:43, September 5, 2010 (UTC)2
::Great :D [[User:The_Theif|'''The Thief ''']] 00:31, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
::

== Mechanism ==

I think the new blade is rigged to them flexing their fore arm. give helpful criticism or add on.
:
:How It Woks:
#Hand is flexed.[[File:Hidden_Blade_Mechanism.png|thumb|Hidden Blade Blueprints]]
#Chord attached to finger is pulled.
#Chord pulls Pull Switch which rotates wheel 180'.
#Wheel rotation moves arm attached to second point of lazy tongs/scissor jack.
#Scissor Jack stretches out, extending blade.
#Pawl (locking mechanism) prevents the wheel from turning counter clockwise.
#Hand relaxes
#Spring on Pull Switch pulls the Pull Switch down (this does not turn wheel due to the shape of the teeth, the just slip over each other) into initial position.
#When the wielder wants to retract the blade, he or she pulls on the chord again.
#Chord pulls the Pull Switch which rotates wheel 180' again.
#Arm, and therefore scissor jack, is brought back to initial position.
#Hand relaxes.
#Spring on Pull Switch pulls Pull Switch down into initial position (again without effecting the wheel).
#Ready to go again.
Any questions please ask. The picture is by someone on the website Exotic Automatic, which has a wide range of Hidden Blade designs. This by far is my favourite because of it's simplicity.

:It has already been confirmed that the blade is controlled by the flexing of the wrist muscles. Also, sign your posts. --'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato|Jasca Ducato]]''''' [[User talk:Jasca Ducato|Council Chamber]] [[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato|Assassination record]] 21:00, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

:Apologies. But realistically that wouldn't work. With the amount of climbing and fighting Ezio does, that would cause the blades to come out at very inconvenient moments. Only a mechanism triggered by a chord would work effectively. [[Special:Contributions/84.93.160.45|84.93.160.45]] 23:16, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

== Where did it go? ==

Anyone wanna have a long debate about what happened to Ezio's dad's hidden blade and bracer after he fainted on his way to Rome? It just disappeared and was replaced like I said on the Trivia. Any theories? :P [[User:Bonkorz|Bonkorz]] 02:30, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

:My theory: Machiavelli or his men find Ezio passed out on his way to Rome. He discovers that the ''bracer'' is broken, but not the blade, or any of the other killing bits. While the new robes were being made/delivered, a new bracer was made to fit the undamaged hidden blade mechanisms (gun, poison and all). The poison blade, the gun and the repaired hidden blade come from Altair's codex. I have to assume that nobody but Leonardo could have built them. Therefore, Ezio's "new" hidden blade is actually a repackaging of Giovanni's hidden blade.--[[User:CasualGamer|CasualGamer]] 00:49, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

::That AND where Desmond's bracer went? [[User:Bonkorz|Bonkorz]] 02:31, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

::Desmond most likely took off the Bracer, too noticable [[Special:Contributions/75.171.31.44|75.171.31.44]] 06:43, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

== Hidden bolts? ==

what are they about? is it to do with dart thing or something cuz i dont get it... [[User:Nuclear Simon|Nuclear Simon]] 16:50, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

I think it works the same ... its a Project Legacy weapon [[User:Eggy2504]] 17:46, 28 June, 2011

== Adding images... ==

Hi, I was wondering how I should go about adding a image for the duel hidden blades. It is a quality image but the gallery section just has videos and I don't want to just put it in the article (incase I screw it up). I will add the image below so hopefully the editors and admins can decide. Thanks for all your hard work on the site too! :) [[User:Kaloneous|Kaloneous]] 12:55, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

[[File:Hidden_blades.jpg|thumb|314px|Double Hidden Blades]]

I was wondering if someone could add a pic of desmonds hidden blade because I am unable to because of crap computer.

[[User:Subject DM|Subject DM]] 15:07, July 4, 2011 (UTC)Subject DM[[User:Subject DM|Subject DM]] 15:07, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

== AC refference in GI Joe ==

If you watch the GI Joe movie (the newer one), you will notice that when Storm Shadow kills the Count he uses a hidden blade the looked very Assassin's Creed based. The only difference was that he had to turn a knob to retract it. Just thought this was interesting.

Doubt it was a direct reference. Retractible wrist blades have been in fiction since before AC.[[Special:Contributions/70.70.13.203|70.70.13.203]] 20:12, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

== Bend? ==

Hmm... I never noticed that. Well,[http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/User:Falco_Luce_del_Sud-Est Falco Luce del Sud-Est], give us a picture and tell which hand. [[User:Nuclear Simon|Nuclear Simon]] 10:40, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

== Revelations? ==

Will you be able to get you second hidden blade back in revelations or is it replaced by the hook blade? [[User:TheDudeMan123456|TheDudeMan123456]] 21:03, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

I hope so[[User:PingoEagle|PingoEagle]] 12:26, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

== Assassin's Creed 3= 3 hidden blades? ==

Do you think that, in AC3, Desmond and The Animus main characther will have 3 hidden blades?

Two on his right, one on the left... who knows?[[User:PingoEagle|PingoEagle]] 12:23, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Or one on his foot.[[User:TheDudeMan123456|TheDudeMan123456]] 23:16, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Or maybe,one of the blades might look like this: http://spikings.deviantart.com/art/AC-Victorian-Hidden-Blade-220678580 (without the finger amputation part(

== Desmond's Hidden Blade ==

In Assassin's creed 2, Desmond gets a replica of Giovanni's hidden blade,

In Ac:b, where the hell happened to the bracer?!

[[User:PingoEagle|PingoEagle]] 08:01, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Desmond removed the bracer to help conceal the blade itself as a precaution should the get pulled over or found. It allowed for a lighter blade arm (an estimated pound or 2 taken off from the bracer being removed) so he could move easier and so it isn't noticed under the sweatshirt sleeve.

[[Special:Contributions/165.234.180.58|165.234.180.58]] 16:29, January 30, 2012 (UTC)Excalibur0047

I suspect that in modern times assassins wear more concealable hidden blades. How many people do you see (in the modern elements of the game) wearing bracers? -- ► '''''[[User:Kaloneous|Kaloneous]]''''' ◄[[User talk:Kaloneous| ♣HelpDesk♣]] 08:18, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

I'd be very happy if we lost the ability to block with the hidden blade due to the lack of bracer with Desmond. So that we'd have to use the Hidden Blade Altaïr-style, which I found a lot more challenging. [[User:RussellSparrow|RussellSparrow]] 17:58, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

== Shock Blade ==

Who put the picture of a non-existent blade here? It should be removed, along with the modern blade.[[User:Einsteinium99|Einsteinium99]] 18:44, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

It was Jasca Ducato, but he is an administrator so I don't know if it's real or not. {{SUBST:User:Soldier Flame/Sig|18:56,11/19/2011}}

== Where'd you find the pics? Are these blades mentioned in the game? ==

[[File:Shock_blade.jpg|thumb]]

[[File:Modern_hidden_blade.jpg|thumb]]

'Cause I find it interesting that I can't see anything about it in The Trivia or in The Sources...

And both the shock blade and the modern blade have baggy arm sleeves (the sleeves seem like they're too big for the person). None-the-less....

They do look great! :-)

[[User:Subject 16 18|Subject 16 18]] 02:07, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

They're from the Encyclopedia. [[User:Stormbeast|Stormbeast]] 02:10, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Really? Can you be a doll and type up the info on it? Seeing as how I don't own the encyclopedia? [[User:Subject 16 18|Subject 16 18]] 11:50, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

There's no info on the shock blade though. It just tells about Daniel, Paul, and Desmond all using a modern version. [[User:Stormbeast|Stormbeast]] 02:54, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Shizzle? You'd think there'd be info about a blade that can electrocute someone. :-p [[User:Subject 16 18|Subject 16 18]] 20:42, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

I really hope that in AC3 we can use the Shock Blade aswell as the original hidden blade for Desmond. [[User:RiftMan|RiftMan]] 10:15, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

I know right! You can electrocute one Templar and make the other bleed. [[User:Subject 16 18|Subject 16 18]] 20:35, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Hidden Blade

2012-02-13T19:23:26Z

89.122.249.160: /* Where did it go? */

{{Talkheader}}

==Finger amputation==

"This amputation is part of the initiation into the Hashshashin sect, which the Assassins are based on." To me, this sounds like the real life assassins did that. I thought that was an in-game contrivance? If it's real, and they really did do that, could someone source that? And, if not, could it please be reworded? Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/90.206.121.92|90.206.121.92]] 09:54, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

:"[http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Patrice_Desilets Patrice Desilets], the creative director of the game stated that the addition of a second blade in ''Assassin's Creed II'' also had a lucid reason: it's the sequel, it's Assassin's Creed II so there are 2 blades."

::Cool, so Assassin's Creed 3 will have 3 blades? Then where will it be :D [[Special:Contributions/203.162.3.165|203.162.3.165]] 14:06, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

:::If there was a third, it would probably be on his foot or something... ([[User:J.h.jaraub|J.h.jaraub]] 20:18, January 18, 2010 (UTC))

::::I agree--[[User:Stomping|Sangheili wunna be]] 21:33, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

:::::I agree aswell. The future assassin would most likely have a mechanism under his foot that pops out a blade for kick-stabbing or something. Anyone see Deadliest Warrior: CIA vs. KGB? Apparently KGB dudes have foot-blades lol. [[User:DracoX872|DracoX872]] 02:43, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

::::::theres some production art of ezio with two hidden blades on the same hand, it really cool looking. i dont know what practical purpose that would have, but its possible. [[User:CarloGrimaldi|CarloGrimaldi]] 00:40, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

:::::::Hidden blades have changed loads over the years..... The most recent I've seen are one's that if flicked one way, the blade comes out the wirst (Like Ezio's and Altair's) and if balled into a fist, a blade will come out from the knuckles making a punch attack more fatal...... I've even seen ballistics hidden blades that when the pin is pulled, gunpowder ignites and the knife shoots out at distance like a throwing knife........ [[User:EchoAltair|EchoAltair]] 00:52, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
:::::::
:::::::What I don't get is why does Altair use a button to realise the blade in one of the E3 trailers?[[User:The Loyal Recruit|The Loyal Recruit]] 19:27, May 16, 2011 (UTC)
:::::::
:::::::

==History==

Guys, this article needs a History section, comprising everyhting that happened and explaining exactly what the hell is a hidden blade, not it's "uses". Like, when it was invented, who was the first known guy to use it, the rituals involving it in the crusade, the importance it had in Altaïr's mission, the upgrades made via Codex, the reconstruction by Leonardo da Vinci, etc. -- [[User:D. Cello|D. Cello]] 22:07, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

:What I wanna know is how it works.
::Ask nicely. -- [[User:D. Cello|D. Cello]] 05:23, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
:::I know how 'real' hidden blades work (much different to gameplay usage) and I also know why they were invented but don't know how I would put it in the article without it relating to the gameplay.......[[User:EchoAltair|EchoAltair]] 00:58, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

::::most people have an idea on how to make a springloaded blade pop out. but how do you make it retract ?
:::::Simple... but I'm not telling you, cause it is *not related to the article*! -- [[User:D. Cello|D. Cello]] 22:34, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
==Improvements?==
Hey guys, what improvements does this article need? Can someone please make a bulleted list or something that way everyone can help add it on? [[User:DracoX872|DracoX872]] 02:46, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
:If there is one thing that this article is missing is mention of desmond's hidden blade, from the looks of it it is moere modern and significantly smaller, also the scenes where Ezio uses his blade as a lock pick. - anon

==Article Name?==

Should the B for blade be a capital? In-game it is... [[User:The_Theif|'''The Thief ''']] 13:23, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

:Definitely. In-game is godly-canon. :P --[[User:Piratehunter|'''''P''''''''''i''''''''''r''''''''''a''''''''''t''''''''''e''''''''''h''''''''''u''''''''''n''''''''''t''''''''''e''''''''''r''''']] ([[User talk:Piratehunter|Talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Piratehunter|Contribs]]) 16:43, September 5, 2010 (UTC)2
::Great :D [[User:The_Theif|'''The Thief ''']] 00:31, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
::

== Mechanism ==

I think the new blade is rigged to them flexing their fore arm. give helpful criticism or add on.
:
:How It Woks:
#Hand is flexed.[[File:Hidden_Blade_Mechanism.png|thumb|Hidden Blade Blueprints]]
#Chord attached to finger is pulled.
#Chord pulls Pull Switch which rotates wheel 180'.
#Wheel rotation moves arm attached to second point of lazy tongs/scissor jack.
#Scissor Jack stretches out, extending blade.
#Pawl (locking mechanism) prevents the wheel from turning counter clockwise.
#Hand relaxes
#Spring on Pull Switch pulls the Pull Switch down (this does not turn wheel due to the shape of the teeth, the just slip over each other) into initial position.
#When the wielder wants to retract the blade, he or she pulls on the chord again.
#Chord pulls the Pull Switch which rotates wheel 180' again.
#Arm, and therefore scissor jack, is brought back to initial position.
#Hand relaxes.
#Spring on Pull Switch pulls Pull Switch down into initial position (again without effecting the wheel).
#Ready to go again.
Any questions please ask. The picture is by someone on the website Exotic Automatic, which has a wide range of Hidden Blade designs. This by far is my favourite because of it's simplicity.

:It has already been confirmed that the blade is controlled by the flexing of the wrist muscles. Also, sign your posts. --'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato|Jasca Ducato]]''''' [[User talk:Jasca Ducato|Council Chamber]] [[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato|Assassination record]] 21:00, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

:Apologies. But realistically that wouldn't work. With the amount of climbing and fighting Ezio does, that would cause the blades to come out at very inconvenient moments. Only a mechanism triggered by a chord would work effectively. [[Special:Contributions/84.93.160.45|84.93.160.45]] 23:16, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

== Where did it go? ==

Anyone wanna have a long debate about what happened to Ezio's dad's hidden blade and bracer after he fainted on his way to Rome? It just disappeared and was replaced like I said on the Trivia. Any theories? :P [[User:Bonkorz|Bonkorz]] 02:30, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

:My theory: Machiavelli or his men find Ezio passed out on his way to Rome. He discovers that the ''bracer'' is broken, but not the blade, or any of the other killing bits. While the new robes were being made/delivered, a new bracer was made to fit the undamaged hidden blade mechanisms (gun, poison and all). The poison blade, the gun and the repaired hidden blade come from Altair's codex. I have to assume that nobody but Leonardo could have built them. Therefore, Ezio's "new" hidden blade is actually a repackaging of Giovanni's hidden blade.--[[User:CasualGamer|CasualGamer]] 00:49, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

::That AND where Desmond's bracer went? [[User:Bonkorz|Bonkorz]] 02:31, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

::Desmond most likely took off the Bracer, too noticable [[Special:Contributions/75.171.31.44|75.171.31.44]] 06:43, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

== Hidden bolts? ==

what are they about? is it to do with dart thing or something cuz i dont get it... [[User:Nuclear Simon|Nuclear Simon]] 16:50, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

I think it works the same ... its a Project Legacy weapon [[User:Eggy2504]] 17:46, 28 June, 2011

== Adding images... ==

Hi, I was wondering how I should go about adding a image for the duel hidden blades. It is a quality image but the gallery section just has videos and I don't want to just put it in the article (incase I screw it up). I will add the image below so hopefully the editors and admins can decide. Thanks for all your hard work on the site too! :) [[User:Kaloneous|Kaloneous]] 12:55, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

[[File:Hidden_blades.jpg|thumb|314px|Double Hidden Blades]]

I was wondering if someone could add a pic of desmonds hidden blade because I am unable to because of crap computer.

[[User:Subject DM|Subject DM]] 15:07, July 4, 2011 (UTC)Subject DM[[User:Subject DM|Subject DM]] 15:07, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

== AC refference in GI Joe ==

If you watch the GI Joe movie (the newer one), you will notice that when Storm Shadow kills the Count he uses a hidden blade the looked very Assassin's Creed based. The only difference was that he had to turn a knob to retract it. Just thought this was interesting.

Doubt it was a direct reference. Retractible wrist blades have been in fiction since before AC.[[Special:Contributions/70.70.13.203|70.70.13.203]] 20:12, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

== Bend? ==

Hmm... I never noticed that. Well,[http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/User:Falco_Luce_del_Sud-Est Falco Luce del Sud-Est], give us a picture and tell which hand. [[User:Nuclear Simon|Nuclear Simon]] 10:40, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

== Revelations? ==

Will you be able to get you second hidden blade back in revelations or is it replaced by the hook blade? [[User:TheDudeMan123456|TheDudeMan123456]] 21:03, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

I hope so[[User:PingoEagle|PingoEagle]] 12:26, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

== Assassin's Creed 3= 3 hidden blades? ==

Do you think that, in AC3, Desmond and The Animus main characther will have 3 hidden blades?

Two on his right, one on the left... who knows?[[User:PingoEagle|PingoEagle]] 12:23, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Or one on his foot.[[User:TheDudeMan123456|TheDudeMan123456]] 23:16, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

== Desmond's Hidden Blade ==

In Assassin's creed 2, Desmond gets a replica of Giovanni's hidden blade,

In Ac:b, where the hell happened to the bracer?!

[[User:PingoEagle|PingoEagle]] 08:01, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Desmond removed the bracer to help conceal the blade itself as a precaution should the get pulled over or found. It allowed for a lighter blade arm (an estimated pound or 2 taken off from the bracer being removed) so he could move easier and so it isn't noticed under the sweatshirt sleeve.

[[Special:Contributions/165.234.180.58|165.234.180.58]] 16:29, January 30, 2012 (UTC)Excalibur0047

I suspect that in modern times assassins wear more concealable hidden blades. How many people do you see (in the modern elements of the game) wearing bracers? -- ► '''''[[User:Kaloneous|Kaloneous]]''''' ◄[[User talk:Kaloneous| ♣HelpDesk♣]] 08:18, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

I'd be very happy if we lost the ability to block with the hidden blade due to the lack of bracer with Desmond. So that we'd have to use the Hidden Blade Altaïr-style, which I found a lot more challenging. [[User:RussellSparrow|RussellSparrow]] 17:58, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

== Shock Blade ==

Who put the picture of a non-existent blade here? It should be removed, along with the modern blade.[[User:Einsteinium99|Einsteinium99]] 18:44, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

It was Jasca Ducato, but he is an administrator so I don't know if it's real or not. {{SUBST:User:Soldier Flame/Sig|18:56,11/19/2011}}

== Where'd you find the pics? Are these blades mentioned in the game? ==

[[File:Shock_blade.jpg|thumb]]

[[File:Modern_hidden_blade.jpg|thumb]]

'Cause I find it interesting that I can't see anything about it in The Trivia or in The Sources...

And both the shock blade and the modern blade have baggy arm sleeves (the sleeves seem like they're too big for the person). None-the-less....

They do look great! :-)

[[User:Subject 16 18|Subject 16 18]] 02:07, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

They're from the Encyclopedia. [[User:Stormbeast|Stormbeast]] 02:10, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Really? Can you be a doll and type up the info on it? Seeing as how I don't own the encyclopedia? [[User:Subject 16 18|Subject 16 18]] 11:50, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

There's no info on the shock blade though. It just tells about Daniel, Paul, and Desmond all using a modern version. [[User:Stormbeast|Stormbeast]] 02:54, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Shizzle? You'd think there'd be info about a blade that can electrocute someone. :-p [[User:Subject 16 18|Subject 16 18]] 20:42, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

I really hope that in AC3 we can use the Shock Blade aswell as the original hidden blade for Desmond. [[User:RiftMan|RiftMan]] 10:15, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

I know right! You can electrocute one Templar and make the other bleed. [[User:Subject 16 18|Subject 16 18]] 20:35, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Hidden Blade

2012-02-13T19:22:08Z

89.122.249.160: /* Where did it go? */

{{Talkheader}}

==Finger amputation==

"This amputation is part of the initiation into the Hashshashin sect, which the Assassins are based on." To me, this sounds like the real life assassins did that. I thought that was an in-game contrivance? If it's real, and they really did do that, could someone source that? And, if not, could it please be reworded? Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/90.206.121.92|90.206.121.92]] 09:54, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

:"[http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Patrice_Desilets Patrice Desilets], the creative director of the game stated that the addition of a second blade in ''Assassin's Creed II'' also had a lucid reason: it's the sequel, it's Assassin's Creed II so there are 2 blades."

::Cool, so Assassin's Creed 3 will have 3 blades? Then where will it be :D [[Special:Contributions/203.162.3.165|203.162.3.165]] 14:06, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

:::If there was a third, it would probably be on his foot or something... ([[User:J.h.jaraub|J.h.jaraub]] 20:18, January 18, 2010 (UTC))

::::I agree--[[User:Stomping|Sangheili wunna be]] 21:33, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

:::::I agree aswell. The future assassin would most likely have a mechanism under his foot that pops out a blade for kick-stabbing or something. Anyone see Deadliest Warrior: CIA vs. KGB? Apparently KGB dudes have foot-blades lol. [[User:DracoX872|DracoX872]] 02:43, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

::::::theres some production art of ezio with two hidden blades on the same hand, it really cool looking. i dont know what practical purpose that would have, but its possible. [[User:CarloGrimaldi|CarloGrimaldi]] 00:40, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

:::::::Hidden blades have changed loads over the years..... The most recent I've seen are one's that if flicked one way, the blade comes out the wirst (Like Ezio's and Altair's) and if balled into a fist, a blade will come out from the knuckles making a punch attack more fatal...... I've even seen ballistics hidden blades that when the pin is pulled, gunpowder ignites and the knife shoots out at distance like a throwing knife........ [[User:EchoAltair|EchoAltair]] 00:52, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
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:::::::What I don't get is why does Altair use a button to realise the blade in one of the E3 trailers?[[User:The Loyal Recruit|The Loyal Recruit]] 19:27, May 16, 2011 (UTC)
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==History==

Guys, this article needs a History section, comprising everyhting that happened and explaining exactly what the hell is a hidden blade, not it's "uses". Like, when it was invented, who was the first known guy to use it, the rituals involving it in the crusade, the importance it had in Altaïr's mission, the upgrades made via Codex, the reconstruction by Leonardo da Vinci, etc. -- [[User:D. Cello|D. Cello]] 22:07, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

:What I wanna know is how it works.
::Ask nicely. -- [[User:D. Cello|D. Cello]] 05:23, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
:::I know how 'real' hidden blades work (much different to gameplay usage) and I also know why they were invented but don't know how I would put it in the article without it relating to the gameplay.......[[User:EchoAltair|EchoAltair]] 00:58, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

::::most people have an idea on how to make a springloaded blade pop out. but how do you make it retract ?
:::::Simple... but I'm not telling you, cause it is *not related to the article*! -- [[User:D. Cello|D. Cello]] 22:34, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
==Improvements?==
Hey guys, what improvements does this article need? Can someone please make a bulleted list or something that way everyone can help add it on? [[User:DracoX872|DracoX872]] 02:46, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
:If there is one thing that this article is missing is mention of desmond's hidden blade, from the looks of it it is moere modern and significantly smaller, also the scenes where Ezio uses his blade as a lock pick. - anon

==Article Name?==

Should the B for blade be a capital? In-game it is... [[User:The_Theif|'''The Thief ''']] 13:23, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

:Definitely. In-game is godly-canon. :P --[[User:Piratehunter|'''''P''''''''''i''''''''''r''''''''''a''''''''''t''''''''''e''''''''''h''''''''''u''''''''''n''''''''''t''''''''''e''''''''''r''''']] ([[User talk:Piratehunter|Talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Piratehunter|Contribs]]) 16:43, September 5, 2010 (UTC)2
::Great :D [[User:The_Theif|'''The Thief ''']] 00:31, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
::

== Mechanism ==

I think the new blade is rigged to them flexing their fore arm. give helpful criticism or add on.
:
:How It Woks:
#Hand is flexed.[[File:Hidden_Blade_Mechanism.png|thumb|Hidden Blade Blueprints]]
#Chord attached to finger is pulled.
#Chord pulls Pull Switch which rotates wheel 180'.
#Wheel rotation moves arm attached to second point of lazy tongs/scissor jack.
#Scissor Jack stretches out, extending blade.
#Pawl (locking mechanism) prevents the wheel from turning counter clockwise.
#Hand relaxes
#Spring on Pull Switch pulls the Pull Switch down (this does not turn wheel due to the shape of the teeth, the just slip over each other) into initial position.
#When the wielder wants to retract the blade, he or she pulls on the chord again.
#Chord pulls the Pull Switch which rotates wheel 180' again.
#Arm, and therefore scissor jack, is brought back to initial position.
#Hand relaxes.
#Spring on Pull Switch pulls Pull Switch down into initial position (again without effecting the wheel).
#Ready to go again.
Any questions please ask. The picture is by someone on the website Exotic Automatic, which has a wide range of Hidden Blade designs. This by far is my favourite because of it's simplicity.

:It has already been confirmed that the blade is controlled by the flexing of the wrist muscles. Also, sign your posts. --'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato|Jasca Ducato]]''''' [[User talk:Jasca Ducato|Council Chamber]] [[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato|Assassination record]] 21:00, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

:Apologies. But realistically that wouldn't work. With the amount of climbing and fighting Ezio does, that would cause the blades to come out at very inconvenient moments. Only a mechanism triggered by a chord would work effectively. [[Special:Contributions/84.93.160.45|84.93.160.45]] 23:16, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

== Where did it go? ==

Anyone wanna have a long debate about what happened to Ezio's dad's hidden blade and bracer after he fainted on his way to Rome? It just disappeared and was replaced like I said on the Trivia. Any theories? :P [[User:Bonkorz|Bonkorz]] 02:30, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

:My theory: Machiavelli or his men find Ezio passed out on his way to Rome. He discovers that the ''bracer'' is broken, but not the blade, or any of the other killing bits. While the new robes were being made/delivered, a new bracer was made to fit the undamaged hidden blade mechanisms (gun, poison and all). The poison blade, the gun and the repaired hidden blade come from Altair's codex. I have to assume that nobody but Leonardo could have built them. Therefore, Ezio's "new" hidden blade is actually a repackaging of Giovanni's hidden blade.--[[User:CasualGamer|CasualGamer]] 00:49, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

::That AND where Desmond's bracer went? [[User:Bonkorz|Bonkorz]] 02:31, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

::Desmond most likely took off the Bracer, too noticable [[Special:Contributions/75.171.31.44|75.171.31.44]] 06:43, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

::OR the bracer was destroyed during the villa attack,so it was replaced when Ezio arrived in Rome(only the bracer,the blade is the same)

== Hidden bolts? ==

what are they about? is it to do with dart thing or something cuz i dont get it... [[User:Nuclear Simon|Nuclear Simon]] 16:50, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

I think it works the same ... its a Project Legacy weapon [[User:Eggy2504]] 17:46, 28 June, 2011

== Adding images... ==

Hi, I was wondering how I should go about adding a image for the duel hidden blades. It is a quality image but the gallery section just has videos and I don't want to just put it in the article (incase I screw it up). I will add the image below so hopefully the editors and admins can decide. Thanks for all your hard work on the site too! :) [[User:Kaloneous|Kaloneous]] 12:55, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

[[File:Hidden_blades.jpg|thumb|314px|Double Hidden Blades]]

I was wondering if someone could add a pic of desmonds hidden blade because I am unable to because of crap computer.

[[User:Subject DM|Subject DM]] 15:07, July 4, 2011 (UTC)Subject DM[[User:Subject DM|Subject DM]] 15:07, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

== AC refference in GI Joe ==

If you watch the GI Joe movie (the newer one), you will notice that when Storm Shadow kills the Count he uses a hidden blade the looked very Assassin's Creed based. The only difference was that he had to turn a knob to retract it. Just thought this was interesting.

Doubt it was a direct reference. Retractible wrist blades have been in fiction since before AC.[[Special:Contributions/70.70.13.203|70.70.13.203]] 20:12, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

== Bend? ==

Hmm... I never noticed that. Well,[http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/User:Falco_Luce_del_Sud-Est Falco Luce del Sud-Est], give us a picture and tell which hand. [[User:Nuclear Simon|Nuclear Simon]] 10:40, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

== Revelations? ==

Will you be able to get you second hidden blade back in revelations or is it replaced by the hook blade? [[User:TheDudeMan123456|TheDudeMan123456]] 21:03, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

I hope so[[User:PingoEagle|PingoEagle]] 12:26, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

== Assassin's Creed 3= 3 hidden blades? ==

Do you think that, in AC3, Desmond and The Animus main characther will have 3 hidden blades?

Two on his right, one on the left... who knows?[[User:PingoEagle|PingoEagle]] 12:23, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Or one on his foot.[[User:TheDudeMan123456|TheDudeMan123456]] 23:16, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

== Desmond's Hidden Blade ==

In Assassin's creed 2, Desmond gets a replica of Giovanni's hidden blade,

In Ac:b, where the hell happened to the bracer?!

[[User:PingoEagle|PingoEagle]] 08:01, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Desmond removed the bracer to help conceal the blade itself as a precaution should the get pulled over or found. It allowed for a lighter blade arm (an estimated pound or 2 taken off from the bracer being removed) so he could move easier and so it isn't noticed under the sweatshirt sleeve.

[[Special:Contributions/165.234.180.58|165.234.180.58]] 16:29, January 30, 2012 (UTC)Excalibur0047

I suspect that in modern times assassins wear more concealable hidden blades. How many people do you see (in the modern elements of the game) wearing bracers? -- ► '''''[[User:Kaloneous|Kaloneous]]''''' ◄[[User talk:Kaloneous| ♣HelpDesk♣]] 08:18, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

I'd be very happy if we lost the ability to block with the hidden blade due to the lack of bracer with Desmond. So that we'd have to use the Hidden Blade Altaïr-style, which I found a lot more challenging. [[User:RussellSparrow|RussellSparrow]] 17:58, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

== Shock Blade ==

Who put the picture of a non-existent blade here? It should be removed, along with the modern blade.[[User:Einsteinium99|Einsteinium99]] 18:44, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

It was Jasca Ducato, but he is an administrator so I don't know if it's real or not. {{SUBST:User:Soldier Flame/Sig|18:56,11/19/2011}}

== Where'd you find the pics? Are these blades mentioned in the game? ==

[[File:Shock_blade.jpg|thumb]]

[[File:Modern_hidden_blade.jpg|thumb]]

'Cause I find it interesting that I can't see anything about it in The Trivia or in The Sources...

And both the shock blade and the modern blade have baggy arm sleeves (the sleeves seem like they're too big for the person). None-the-less....

They do look great! :-)

[[User:Subject 16 18|Subject 16 18]] 02:07, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

They're from the Encyclopedia. [[User:Stormbeast|Stormbeast]] 02:10, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Really? Can you be a doll and type up the info on it? Seeing as how I don't own the encyclopedia? [[User:Subject 16 18|Subject 16 18]] 11:50, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

There's no info on the shock blade though. It just tells about Daniel, Paul, and Desmond all using a modern version. [[User:Stormbeast|Stormbeast]] 02:54, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Shizzle? You'd think there'd be info about a blade that can electrocute someone. :-p [[User:Subject 16 18|Subject 16 18]] 20:42, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

I really hope that in AC3 we can use the Shock Blade aswell as the original hidden blade for Desmond. [[User:RiftMan|RiftMan]] 10:15, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

I know right! You can electrocute one Templar and make the other bleed. [[User:Subject 16 18|Subject 16 18]] 20:35, December 21, 2011 (UTC)