Talk:Ratonhnhaké:ton

2013-02-24T14:45:17Z

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==The Wedding==
Conner never talk to with Lyle White and Lance O'Donnell after the wedding at all because I look for vidoe of this and find nothing.[[User:Tyraj|Tyraj]] ([[User talk:Tyraj|talk]]) 17:37, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

: He did, it was one of the interactive conversations. [[User:Amnestyyy|'''Nesty''']] [[User_Talk:Amnestyyy|Contact me!]] 17:37, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

== Connor Meeting Aveline ==

How come we can't play as Connor on the 360/PS3 for his New York misson with Aveline? I mean, we can play it from his point of view on the Vita, so shouldn't it be the same for the major consoles? [[User:TranquilTempest|''TranquilTempest'']][[User_talk:TranquilTempest|Qu'est-ce que c'est?]] 08:34, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

: No? It's likely between Sequences 8 and 9, or 9 and 10. {{User:The Crimson Eagle/sig}} 15:53, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
: No, that doesn't happen. I've played through the game twice now, and she's seen the walkthroughs. [[User:SupremeAssassin|''Supreme Master Assassin'']][[User_talk:SupremeAssassin|O Mentoras]] 15:59, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

I'm afraid that's a mystery I've been trying to solve for the longest time... and well... it has no answer, other than to say "We're Ubisoft. We do things like that." [[User:SupremeAssassin|''Supreme Master Assassin'']][[User_talk:SupremeAssassin|O Mentoras]] 15:59, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

What are you talking about? I mean that the memory in ''Liberation'' is likely between two memory sequences in ''III'', and is therefore irrelevant to the plot...

PS: Please don't move my messages; I was replying to Tranquil, not you. {{User:The Crimson Eagle/sig}} 16:06, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Well you weren't being specific so I was forced to improvise. [[User:SupremeAssassin|''Supreme Master Assassin'']][[User_talk:SupremeAssassin|O Mentoras]] 16:20, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

== Race ==

Shouldn't Connor's race read Native-american/ European America. After all although he grew up native american he is in fact half of each race.

[[Special:Contributions/70.197.165.163|70.197.165.163]] 15:15, February 2, 2013 (UTC})

He's Half Mohawk, Half English. Haytham was English and Ziio was Mohawk. Not much else to it to be honest.{{User:Trever09/sig}} 15:39, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

==Romantic life==
Could everybody pleasce stop editing out the Romantic life part because we have Romantic life for all the other charater on here like his father,ezio, and altair and so on as example.[[User:Tyraj|Tyraj]] ([[User talk:Tyraj|talk]]) 00:00, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

While it is true that the other protagonists have romantic life sections, Connor's is not needed because it would just be a long paragraph basically stating that he doesn't have one. So, no, it will be removed. --[[User:Nostalgia AC|'''NOSTALGIA''']] [[User_Talk:Nostalgia AC|TALK]] 01:59, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

== Alternate timeline ==

Ratonhnhaké:ton's experiences in TOKY should be in the main biography section, not an entirely new one, all of the other characters involved would be because they show no evidence of recalling the events of the main timeline or somehow crossing over the way he did, whereas this is the mainstream Connor in an alternate world in a canon storyline. everything else I've seen with stories like this include it in the main biography unless it's specifically non canon. For example you see it on magneto's page on both his wikipedia and marvel wiki pages, the events of House of M are part of his main biography despite being set in an alternate world.[[User:Gboy4|Gboy4]] ([[User talk:Gboy4|talk]]) 14:24, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

:No. This isn't wikipedia or marvel wiki. We have our own Manual of Style. Abide by it or don't edit at all, else you'll do nothing but be disruptive. --[[User:Kainzorus Prime|Kainzorus Prime]] [[User talk:Kainzorus Prime|Walkie-talkie]] 15:02, February 21, 2013 (UTC)
::what manual of style?--[[User:Gboy4|Gboy4]] ([[User talk:Gboy4|talk]]) 15:10, February 21, 2013 (UTC)
:::Never mind, found it.--[[User:Gboy4|Gboy4]] ([[User talk:Gboy4|talk]]) 15:20, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

::::Wikipedia handles no set Manual of Style for this sort of occurence, and more characters than just Magneto are part multiple timelines in the Marvel Comics, it would be too messy to list all alternate realities on them otherwise. Connor retaining his consciousness from the main canon bears no relevance on this being part of his biography or not; none of this actually happened in the main canon, so it does not belong among the other things that he ''did'' do in the main canon. Additionally we do not know when exactly Connor and Washington had that encounter with the Apple and ended up in this alternate reality, and where it would fit in the biography. Just making a subsection in the biography immediately jumping into the alternate reality without explaining how Connor got there serves no place among canon info, and that is not comparable to Magneto's involvement in House of M. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 15:21, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

:::::No relevance? he's still personally experiencing it even if no other character is, the story has been stated to be Canon meaning that one way or another it did happen in the main canon as it is still something the mainstream Connor experienced and we know that it happened after the revolution and after Connor killed Charles Lee from what he says. Your point would be true for all of the characters except for Connor.--[[User:Gboy4|Gboy4]] ([[User talk:Gboy4|talk]]) 15:37, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

::::::Ubisoft stating the story to be canon in no way means that it happened in the main canon in one way or another. The canon aspect of this alternate timeline is that Connor is ''experiencing'' it in the real world, not ''doing'' it in the real world. You're just repeating what you said in your first message. In further regards to your remark about the House of M, in that story the characters were physically warped to a new reality (if I recall correctly), not just made to experience it in some dream-like sequence. There is no indication that this DLC takes place after Connor killed Charles Lee and after the revolution has ended, though his remark "I know who my father was" implies that Haytham was already dead. As shown at the start of the DLC, Connor had not shaved his hair like he did before he went to confront Charles Lee, and Washington was still wearing his military uniform. Haytham died in late 1781, which is the same year that was put in the Glyph with Washington holding the Apple. The most logical option would be that the encounter between Connor and Washington with the Apple occured in late 1781 or early to mid 1782, in between Sequence 10 and 11. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 16:03, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

:::::: There is actually, I can't remember what they're called exactly but there are three memory points in the episode that show an image of connor's past, so far. Have found two of them and one of them is of Connor killing Charles. And can you please explain to me how the story being canon doesn't mean it happened in the main canon? And Connor is doing it, whether that means he's doing it in a dream or in another world.--[[User:Gboy4|Gboy4]] ([[User talk:Gboy4|talk]]) 16:29, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

:::::::Once you get the three lucid memories in the Infamy, you can watch a short clip where Washington is riding to locate Connor. In this scene, Connor is uninjured, but it is not clear as to the exact time. For the time being, seeing we cannot ascertain the exact means of how he comes to be in the alternate timeline, it is much more convenient to keep it seperated until we know. [[User:Slate Vesper|Slate Vesper]] ([[User talk:Slate Vesper|talk]]) 16:36, February 21, 2013 (UTC)
:::::::: Ok you've convinced me, I'll drop it for now.--[[User:Gboy4|Gboy4]] ([[User talk:Gboy4|talk]]) 16:53, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, the DLC is canon. However, it being canon does not mean it happens in the same timeline as the events of ACIII. Therefore, we can hardly just put a section in the midst of all the main timeline information in which an ally is suddenly an enemy. It would be too confusing for the people who come to the wiki for information - it would probably even be too confusing for many of our editors. By having a section named "Alternate Timeline" we don't say that the events didn't actually happen. We only say that they happened in a different timeline - which is undeniably true (otherwise Kaniehtí:io could not possibly be alive). Me, Sima, and several others have conferred over it on the IRC and decided it stays the way it is. [[User:Amnestyyy|'''Nesty''']] [[User_Talk:Amnestyyy|Contact me!]] 16:38, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

==aternate time==
If you don't mind me asking but shouldn't the alternate time not be on Ratonhnhake:ton page because this is noncant I mean the plot to the The Tyranny of King Washington epiosdes are on that page well The you know Tyranny of King Washington page mean if people went to read about it they just go to that page I'm just saying.[[User:Tyraj|Tyraj]] ([[User talk:Tyraj|talk]]) 08:46, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

but when is connor really born? on some sites it's states 1755, on some it's stated 1756 ..?

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