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Did Malik not become a master assassin though? I&#039;m pretty sure he did. [[User:MorennAC|MorennAC]] 10:23, July 21, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Im pretty sure he didn&#039;t. Altair rubbed it in his face with the quote, &amp;quot;Im superior to you, in BOTH SKILL AND RANK&amp;quot; I think that&#039;s enough proof [[User:War Clown|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family:Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;War&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Clown&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:War Clown|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Wanna Talk?&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 10:29, July 21, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, and then Altair screwed up and became a novice, whereas Malik got his own bureau. I assumed that bureau leaders were master assassins?&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:MorennAC|MorennAC]] 10:57, July 21, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No they are [[The Dai and Rafiqs|Rafiqs]], a different rank. [[User:War Clown|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family:Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;War&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Clown&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:War Clown|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Wanna Talk?&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 11:15, July 21, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::By the way, Altaïr said &amp;quot;I&#039;m your superior, in both title and ability.&amp;quot; Just heard him say that. :P -- [[User:Master Sima Yi|Master Sima Yi]] 11:48, August 31, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sanctuary==&lt;br /&gt;
If Wei Yu and Qulan Gal etc. weren&#039;t Master Assassins, then why do they stand right next to Altaïr in the sanctuary? -- [[User:Master Sima Yi|Master Sima Yi]] 11:48, August 31, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*There is absolutely no mention whatsoever the Altaïr&#039;s statue is in the Sanctuary because he is a Master Assassin; Mario calls them &amp;quot;legendary&amp;quot;, which Altaïr is. You can be legendary, without having the rank of Master Assassin. Likewise, nothing in-game indicates them to be Master Assassins. --&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#BF404D&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Jasca Ducato|Jasca Ducato]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:Jasca Ducato|Council Chamber]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato|Assassination record]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 13:33, August 31, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::The same can be said for Ezio Auditore: where is it said he is a Master Assassin? -- [[User:Master Sima Yi|Master Sima Yi]] 14:02, August 31, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The blurb for &#039;&#039;Brotherhood&#039;&#039; explicitly calls Ezio, a Master Assassin. If you looked at the source, you&#039;d see that. --&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#BF404D&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Jasca Ducato|Jasca Ducato]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:Jasca Ducato|Council Chamber]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato|Assassination record]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 16:07, August 31, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Oh yeah, you&#039;re right. I&#039;m not having my day... -_- -- [[User:Master Sima Yi|Master Sima Yi]] 18:11, August 31, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It&#039;s fine, no worries. --&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#BF404D&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Jasca Ducato|Jasca Ducato]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:Jasca Ducato|Council Chamber]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato|Assassination record]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 18:17, August 31, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::um, on the Sanctuary page it does specificly say &amp;quot;It houses seven statues of seven Master Assassins.&amp;quot; so shouldn&#039;t we go ahead and add them? [[User:Zachariah Zuan|Zachariah Zuan]] 01:08, January 28, 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Hey I just noticed what Zachariah has mentioned above aswell. Taking into consideration what Jasca points out, it does not state that the assassin&#039;s in the sanctuary are Master Assassins... I have therefore taken the liberty to re-word this accordingly. [[User:Subject AMDR|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00FF00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Lord of the Creed&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 17:20, January 31, 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: thanks for checking and doing that, I was just making sure, but this seems pretty accurate &amp;quot;In 1227, after Genghis Khan defeated the Tangut people, Qulan Gal shot Genghis Khan&#039;s horse with a bow, causing him to fall off and succumb to his injuries, for which Qulan Gal was hailed as a Master Assassin.&amp;quot; [[User:Zachariah Zuan|Zachariah Zuan]] 23:36, February 2, 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Grand Master==&lt;br /&gt;
Where is it actually said that a Master Assassin isn&#039;t actually the Grand Master? -- [[User:Master Sima Yi|Master Sima Yi]] 12:51, September 19, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*The first game. Altair is called a Master Assassin, whilst Al Mualim is Grand Master. --&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#BF404D&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Jasca Ducato|Jasca Ducato]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:Jasca Ducato|Council Chamber]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato|Assassination record]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 13:38, September 19, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Perotto Calderon ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I need a second opinion here. Though it&#039;s never really said outright in &#039;&#039;[[Project Legacy]]&#039;&#039;, is it enough to assume that [[Perotto Calderon]] was a Master Assassin given he was allowed to take an understudy/apprentice and had dual hidden blades? =[[User:GuardDog|GuardDog]] 12:51, January 6, 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Assume? No, it&#039;s not. We never add assumption or speculation on articles. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi|Master Sima Yi]] 12:52, January 6, 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sima&#039;s right, assumptions aren&#039;t allowed, no matter how much they may be implied. I&#039;m of the same opinion that Calderon was a Master Assassin as well, due to the obvious reasons you&#039;ve already stated, Guard. However, since there&#039;s nothing explicitly stating that he was, we can&#039;t put it officially on the article. (Hence why it&#039;s in the trivia instead, &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;...Calderon was implied to be a Master Assassin...&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; The same sort of thing goes for Bill Miles / William M. -- we all know they&#039;re more than likely the same person, but we can&#039;t do anything pretaining to that until we have official proof. [[User:Assassin-Rayne|&#039;&#039;-Assassin-of-Rayne-&#039;&#039;]] 13:07, January 6, 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Kay, got it. Thanks, both of you. =[[User:GuardDog|GuardDog]] 13:27, January 6, 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Apprentices==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do all the apprentices earn the title of Master Assassin at Rank 10? If not please remove that reference on the Hidden Blade Page under Basic Usage - Assassin&#039;s Creed: Brotherhood - Apprentices.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Subject 12|Subject 12]] 16:22, February 8, 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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you don&#039;t need to be a master assassin to use hidden blade, just become an Assassin [[User:Zachariah Zuan|Zachariah Zuan]] 15:50, March 30, 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Master Limit ==&lt;br /&gt;
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how many Master Assassins can their be at any one time? is there a limit to like, one per branch, like 1 in Italy, 1 in the UK and such or can they&#039;re be limitless? it&#039;d make sense to have a limit imo [[User:Zachariah Zuan|Zachariah Zuan]] 15:52, March 30, 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:If we knew, it would be in the article. --&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#BF404D&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Jasca Ducato|Jasca Ducato]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:Jasca Ducato|Council Chamber]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato|Assassination record]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 17:20, March 30, 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Desmond  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since Desmond has all of Ezio&#039;s skills and abilitys should he be considered a Master Assassin?&lt;br /&gt;
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00:14, March 31, 2011 (UTC)daleno&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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