Talk:Rope dart

2012-08-09T00:08:10Z

68.234.75.72: /* In "real life" */

As I was reading, It was a Chinese Rope Dart a nod twords Shao Jun(?) from Embers--'''[[User:Kenzen11|Kenzen]] - [[User talk:Kenzen11|Talk]] - [[User blog:Kenzen11|Blog]]''' 14:55, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

That's what's written on Game rant, but I don't think the officials confirmed it. If it was a nod to the Chinese, then the question arises, how did it reach America?[[User:IlMualim|IlMualim]] 16:01, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

In my opinion, it would be nice if it was an adaptation to the Hidden Blade of sorts, learned by Connor due to meeting the Assassins in his lifetime. After all, what's stopping them from sharing information now that the New World was discovered and conflict arose.

I'd like it if it was part of the Hidden Blade, just so that it would have the excuse of being fire-able from the wrist and making up for the whole "grapple hook" suggestion that some people wanted. [[User:Slate Vesper|Slate Vesper]] 21:20, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

== To the person who believes the 'D' in 'Dart' should not be a capital ==

Hello, I just noticed in the 'recent history' page it was said the page shouldn't have 'dart' with a capital 'D'. As it is a title the it should be 'Rope Dart' it is only words such as 'and' 'of' and 'the' that in titles are not captilized. [[Special:Contributions/94.0.109.198|94.0.109.198]] 21:14, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

:The thing is, it's not a title, it's an ordinary word. And You Don't Spell Ordinary Words Like That. :P -- [[User:Master Sima Yi|Master Sima Yi]] [[User talk:Master Sima Yi|Clogs]] [[w:c:marvel-cinematic-universe|Marvel Studios]] 21:15, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

:::Hello, it is the title of the page is it not? If it isn't what did you plan the title to be? [[Special:Contributions/94.0.109.198|94.0.109.198]] 21:18, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

::::Right, because you'd really capitalise "dart" anywhere else, unless it started a sentence or a title? I don't think so. And besides, do you know how pointless this argument is? [[User:Slate Vesper|Slate Vesper]] 21:21, June 5, 2012 (UTC)
:::::Argument? I was just saying that in a title (as in title of a book, or an article) it should be 'Rope Dart' and not 'Rope dart' which is what the title now appears as, but okay, I will say no more of it. :) [[Special:Contributions/94.0.109.198|94.0.109.198]] 21:27, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

:Yes, but the article explicitly refers to a "rope dart" and not a person or object ''named'' "Rope Dart." You can't classify it as a title similar to a book's title or a name; it's just that, a rope dart. {{Wiki|Arc reactor|Here}} is another example of grammatically correct capitalization. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi|Master Sima Yi]] [[User talk:Master Sima Yi|Clogs]] [[w:c:marvel-cinematic-universe|Marvel Studios]] 21:30, June 5, 2012 (UTC)
:Complete last comment on the subject I promise. 'Rope Dart' is the the heading of the page... Just like your page on the hidden blade is called 'Hidden Blade'. However, since I have been taught to do this with my titles from my early school days, I will show you this http://www.accu-assist.com/grammar-tips-archive/GrammarTip_capitalization-titles-headings.htm . As Promised no more comments from me on this, either take my advice on how headings work or do not. Take Care :) [[Special:Contributions/94.0.109.198|94.0.109.198]] 21:37, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

::The Hidden Blade is specifically capitalised because a hidden blade in concept can apply to any blade that is hidden, even by sticking a butter knife up your sleeve so that no-one can see it. In Assassin's Creed, it is referred to, in-game in fact, as the "Hidden Blade" (with capitalisations), as it is a construct that is worn on the wrist.

::However, the rope dart has only been shown in magazine articles, and its title is not seen from an in-universe perspective, so it remains as "Rope dart" until any definitive evidence can be seen. Also, what also differs the Hidden Blade to the rope dart is that the Hidden Blade is not a real mechanical construct in real life, despite being based on concepts from history, whereas the rope dart is a Chinese martial arts weapon that we can see even today.[[User:Slate Vesper|Slate Vesper]] 21:47, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

:There is no "way" on how headings work. I'm well aware of capitalization being the most common, but we all chose long ago not to follow that pattern. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi|Master Sima Yi]] [[User talk:Master Sima Yi|Clogs]] [[w:c:marvel-cinematic-universe|Marvel Studios]] 21:49, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

==Aquiring the Rope dart...==
Okay, don't chew me up, but how would Connor get his hands on a weapon known mainly from China? Sure, may be the Brotherhood experimented and came up with it, but the idea that it would show up in 1700 America seems a little off. [[User:Affectos|Affectos]] ([[User talk:Affectos|talk]]) 01:56, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

We have no idea as of yet, and please make sure to sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. [[User:Slate Vesper|Slate Vesper]] ([[User talk:Slate Vesper|talk]]) 01:53, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the update. I hope to see more theories before the game comes out. I am still new at Wikis, so thanks also for the reminder. [[User:Affectos|Affectos]] ([[User talk:Affectos|talk]]) 01:56, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

==In "real life"==

Sorry, but what is the basis for saying "in real life" this wouldn't work, citing the target's weight or something? There are ballistic missile weapons, some of them even thrown, that they are easily able to penetrate flesh. However, the shape of the penetrator's back side prevents it from being pulled free. Take mechanical broadheads, for example, used in various forms of archery as far back as the medieval period. To top it off, there is no citation or any other information to back up this claim. All I'm saying is that the statement reeks of personal opinion and does not make sense to be on this page, even in the trivia section, especially when there is hard evidence to the contrary. --[[User:KenoSarawa|KenoSarawa]] ([[User_talk:KenoSarawa|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/KenoSarawa|Contribs]]) 21:35, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

From the fleeting glimpses that we've seen in the trailers and demos, the tip is a broadhead, but more along the lines of a smooth cone. Sure it could penatrate flesh, but there are two issues. A: the smooth head would slip right back out if weight were to be applied, meaning the idea that a dead body could be a counter-wieght isn't likely; and B: As far as I have seen, the rope dart of ancient china was a swung weapon, not thrown with the accuracy that Connor has displayed.[[Special:Contributions/68.234.75.72|68.234.75.72]] 00:08, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

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