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Ezio Auditore da Firenze

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{{Character Infobox
|name = Ezio Auditore da Firenze
|image = Ezio.jpg
|imgdesc = A full portrait of Ezio Audiore da Firenze
|faction = [[Assassins|The Assassin Order]]
|appear = ''[[Assassin's Creed: Lineage]]'', ''[[Assassin's Creed II]]''
|period = 15th century
|voice = [[Roger Craig Smith]]
}}
{{Quote|The Auditore are not dead! I'm still here! Me! Ezio; Ezio Auditore da Firenze!|Ezio Auditore, 1476}}
'''Ezio Auditore da Firenze''' (born 1459) was an important figure during the Italian Renaissance - unbeknownst to most history novelists and philosophers - and a member of the [[Assassins|Assassin Order]]. He is a descendant of [[Altaïr ibn La-Ahad]] and the ancestor of [[Desmond Miles]] and possibly [[Subject 16]]. Ezio was unaware of his Assassin heritage until he was 17-years-old, when, following the murder of his [[Giovanni Auditore da Firenze|father]] and [[Federico Auditore da Firenze|two]] [[Petruccio Auditore da Firenze|brothers]], Ezio fled from [[Florence]] and took solace in the town of [[Monteriggioni]].

After the mentoring and training from his uncle, [[Mario Auditore]], Ezio proceeded on his quest of revenge against the Grandmaster of the Templar Knights, [[Rodrigo Borgia]], who had ordered the execution of his father and two brothers. During his 23 year quest for revenge, Ezio managed to not only unite the [[The Codex|Codex]] pages Altaïr wrote, for the first time since [[Domenico Auditore]], but also to save the cities of Florence and [[Venice]] from the Templar Knights' wrath. Later still, Ezio was responsible for the rescue of [[Christoffa Corombo]], uncovering a new plot to discover the "New World".

==Character Biography==
=== ''[[Assassin's Creed: Lineage]]'' ===

[[File:Eziolineagechess.png|thumb|left|A much younger Ezio, portrayed by [[wikipedia:Devon Bostick|Devon Bostick]].]]
Ezio Auditore da Firenze was born in 1459 AD, to [[Giovanni Auditore da Firenze|Giovanni]] and [[Maria Auditore da Firenze|Maria Auditore]]. Until the age of 17, Ezio lived a life of luxury as a Florentine Nobleman, unaware of his father's allegiance to the Assassin Order.

=== ''[[Assassin's Creed II]]'' ===

====The beginning====
The story starts off with Ezio, his older brother, and other people fighting [[Vieri de' Pazzi]]'s men. Ezio's group wins, is scarred on the side of his mouth, and Vieri escaped the scene before Ezio can do anything to him. He slept with a young woman, Cristina Vespucci, and got caught by the woman's father who made the local guards chase him. Ezio met up with his father at the Palazzo Auditore and did several errands for him, his sister, and his mother and meets [[Leonardo da Vinci]] in the process. After completing his errands Ezio returned home to find his father and brothers missing and his mother and [[Claudia Auditore da Firenze|sister]] hiding. Learning that city guards had been ordered to arrest Giovanni and all of his sons, Ezio made his way to the [[wikipedia:Piazza della Signoria|Piazza della Signoria]], where his father and brothers were being held, and was instructed by his father find a chest hidden in his office and to take everything out of it and to deliver a sealed letter to [[Uberto Alberti]], the personal assistant of [[Lorenzo de' Medici]] and a close friend to the Auditore family. Doing so, Ezio found the assassin coat that he would be wearing for the next 23 years and the letter to contain details of a plot against the city of Florence, and the Auditore family, and was told by Alberti that his family would be released when said letter was presented at the execution as evidence.

The next day, Ezio returned to the Piazza della Signoria to find Alberti presiding over the execution of the Auditores, denying any knowledge of the letter's existance. After attemping to murder Alberti, Alberti ordered the city [[Guards|guards]] to murder Ezio. After the guidance of one of Giovanni's friends, a [[Thieves|thief]], Ezio flees the Piazza della Signoria and seeks shelter in a [[Courtesans|whorehouse]], ran by the sister of the Auditore house maid, [[Paola]]. Paola later teaches Ezio how to survive in the city as an outlaw, before directing him to Leonardo da Vinci, to repair the "[[Hidden Blade|hidden blade]]" of the late Giovanni Auditore. After fixing the blade, Ezio learns the location of Alberti and, after sneaking into the courtyard of the [[wikipedia:Basilicia of Santa Croce, Florence|Basilica of Santa Croce]], murders him with his hidden blade, stabbing him five times in the chest, before proudly shouting his name to everyone present making Alberti Ezio's first important assassination.

[[File:Zw-sequence3-00014.png|thumb|right|220px|Ezio yells at the corpse of [[Vieri de' Pazzi]].]]
Now the most wanted man in Florence, Ezio and his mother and sister fled Florence in the hopes of making their way to Spain, but first visiting the Auditore family's [[Auditore Villa|villa]] in the town of [[Monteriggioni]], as a means of shelter. During their travel to Monteriggioni, the three were acosted by [[Vieri de' Pazzi]] and his followers, but were saved by the timely arrival of Ezio's uncle, Mario, and his [[Mercenaries|mercenary]] guards. Mario tells Ezio of the Assassin Order - in an attempt to induct him into the Order - and reveals to him that many of his ancestors, including his father, were apart of the Order. However, Ezio refuses. Enraged, Mario leaves Monteriggioni for the city of [[San Gimignano]], the location of Vieri de' Pazzi, in the attempt of relieving Monteriggioni of its continual assaults. Guilty, Ezio decides to agree to Mario's offer and travels to San Gimignano.

When Ezio arrives outside the city, he joins Mario and his mercenaries in their assault on the city, they wait until nightfall and make there way to Vieri de' Pazzi by killing guards patroling the city. Briefly watching a meeting between [[Rodrigo Borgia]], [[Jacopo de' Pazzi]], [[Francesco de' Pazzi]] and Vieri, Ezio finally meets up with Vieri and fights him for the last time. In the end Ezio eventually stabbed Vieri de' Pazzi in the throat. Though it is in vain as Vieri doesn't answer any of his questions before he dies.  

Following the death of Vieri, Ezio returned to Florence to prevent the planned de' Pazzi takeover and deaths of [[Lorenzo de' Medici]] and [[Guilani de' Medici]]. Arriving too late to save Guilani, Ezio manages to prevent the death of [[Lorenzo de' Medici]] – the ruler of Florence – and restore his family's good name. Despite this however, the de' Pazzis had already succeded in their plan and brought the city to a state of civil war. After learning the location of [[Francesco de' Pazzi]] at the Piazza della Signoria, Ezio chased murdered him and left the corpse to those loyal to de' Medici; although Jacopo de' Pazzi and several other conspirators were able to escape. Shortly afterwards, de' Medici publically cleared the name of the Auditore family and provided Ezio with the names of the conspirators who had escaped.

[[File:Zw-thepazziconspirators.png|thumb|left|200px|[[Jacopo de' Pazzi]] and the fellow conspirators.]]
Learning that the de' Pazzi conspirators were located in San Gimignano, Ezio made his way to San Gimignano and murdered [[Antonio Maffei]], [[Stefano da Bagnone]], [[Bernardo di Bandino Baroncelli]] and [[Francesco Salviati]] before finally locating and following Jacopo de' Pazzi to an ancient Roman theatre. Once there, Ezio eavesdropped on a conversation between Jacopo de' Pazzi, Rodrigo Borgia and the Venetian merchant, [[Emilio Barbarigo]]. After stabbing de' Pazzi for his failure to capture Florence, Borgia revealed to Ezio that he knew that he was there and was apprehended by Borgia's bodyguards while Borgia and Barbarigo fled. Ezio then stabbed both bodyguards, before murdering de' Pazzi.

====Venice====
{{dialogue|[[Emilio Barbarigo]]|The assassin is here, in Venezia?|[[Carlo Grimaldi]]|He's been here for weeks!|Emilio Barbarigo and Carlo Grimaldi discuss Ezio}}
With the Pazzi conspiracy ended, Ezio returned to Lorenzo and declared his success. Before leaving the city for Venice, Ezio was granted a gift; a [[Outfits|Medici cape]], that would keep the city guards attention from him. Ezio then made his way to the studio of Leonardo, only to find that he had just left for Venice himself. Meeting with Leonardo, the two made their way through the appennine mountains to the city of [[Forlì]], narrowly avoiding the Templar soldiers sent after them by Rodrigo Borgia.

Eventually arriving in Forlì, the two made their way to the city docks, where Ezio was refused passage without a pass. It was at this moment that the two heard the screams of a noble lady stranded in the city's wetlands. Rescued, the lady introduced herself as [[Caterina Sforza]], and forced the dockman to grant Ezio passage to Venice. Once in Venice, Ezio and Leonardo were given a brief tour of the city before Ezio begun to seek out a way into the Palazzo of Emilio Barbarigo, although in vain. Suddenly pushed aside, Ezio watched as a collection of thieves attempted to breach the palazzo, but failed, and subsequently aided in the escape of the thief [[Rosa]], who had been shot through the leg with an arrow. After successfuly escaping the city guards, Ezio was introduced to the leader of the Venetian thieves guild [[Antonio]], and together the two concocted a new plot to kill Barbarigo and liberate the merchant district.

The plot was successful, and gave Ezio the name of another Templar conspirator – [[Carlo Grimaldi]]. A government official and member of the Council of Ten, Carlo was close to the Mocenigo, the Doge of Venice and hoped to turn him to the Templar cause. Overhearing another meeting between Borgia and Carlo, Ezio uncovered a changed plot to poison the Doge and replace him with the Barbarigo, [[Marco Barbarigo|Marco]]. Returning to Antonio, the two sought to find a way into the [[Palazzo Ducale]] – the Doge's Palace –, searching the front gates, the rear walls and even passing over the the [[Basilica di San Marco]]; but were hampered at every turn. Returning to the piazza below, an enraged Antonio remarked at how only birds might get into the Doge's palace, reminding Ezio of Leonardo's [[Flying Machine|flying machine]] he had seen on the way to Forlì.

[[File:Ezio fighting1.jpg|thumb|280px|right|Ezio fighting in Venice.]]

After removing the city guards at four separate locations, Antonio's thieves proceeded to light massive bonfires throughout the city, giving Ezio the lift Leonardo's flying machine needed to make it to the Palazzo Ducale. The plan worked and Ezio breached the Palazzo Ducale, although he was too late to save the Doge. Carlo fled, crying out that Ezio had assassinated the Doge, although he himself hid not survive long. Blamed for killing the Doge though, Ezio was now the most wanted man in Venice, and was forced to flee the city guards. Returning to Leonardo's workshop, Ezio was directed to the brothel of [[Sister Teodora]], where Antonio was presiding. Under the cover of carnevale, Ezio made his way to the brothel and begun planning the death of Marco Barbarigo; competing in the four games of carnevale to win the golden mask that would gain him entrance to Marco's private party, Ezio was successful, but found himself denied the golden mask by Marco's cousin [[Silvio Barbarigo]] and his slave [[Dante Moro]]. The assassin was successful in regaining the mask and managed to assassinate Marco, leaving to door open for Agostino – a Barbarigo not entwinned with the Templars – to become Doge.

With his quest nearly at an end, Ezio tracked down Silvio Barbarigo and his slave Dante Moro, in the process liberating the mercenary leader [[Bartolomeo d'Alviano]] and his soldiers. Having tracked the Templars to the city Arsenal, Ezio managed to break in and kill Dante Moro and Silvio barbarigo, but was astonished to learn that the plot to remove the Doge was merely a distraction so that the Templar's could move their vessel to [[Cyprus]], although the reasons for this were unknown to Ezio.

====Induction into the Order and later years====
{{Quote|La shai wak'ion motlaq bal kollon momken ''(Nothing is true, everything is permitted)''|Mario Auditore at the initiation}}

Two more years passed before word of the Templar vessel reached Ezio once again; when Rosa brought him a shipping manifest detailing the return of the ship that very day. Sneaking into the Arsenal, Ezio watched as a templar soldier carrying a [[Piece of Eden]] disembarked from the ship and made his way to a Templar base in the city. Following the soldier, Ezio assassinated and impersonated the guard, carrying the Piece of Eden to a meeting with Rodrigo Borgia himself. Finally able to confront the man ultimately responsible for the deaths of his father and brothers, Ezio spurned the Templar Grandmaster for the non-appearance of the supposed prophet detailed in the Codex prophecy. Borgia responded, proudly naming himself the prophet before engaging Ezio in battle; the battle was short and Ezio easily bested the Templar. On the backfoot, Borgia called upon the city guards and insulted the assassin for the lack of "his people" showing up.

At this very moment Mario Auditore, Antonio, Paola, Teodora, [[La Volpe]] and Bartolomeo d'Alviano appeared, driving off Borgia and revealing themselves to Ezio as assassins. With the arrival of [[Niccolò Machiavelli]], the Assassin Grandmaster, it as revealed to Ezio that ''he'' was in fact the supposed prophet, and that for the past decade they had all worked together to induct Ezio into the Assassins Order proper. That night, they all met up again, and Ezio was formally inducted into the Order.

Over the next few years Ezio continued to serve the assassin's faithfully, defending Forlì from the Orsi brothers and defeating the Dominican priest [[Girolamo Savonarola]] during his purge of Florence in 1498. In 1491, at the behest of the Assassin Antonio, Ezio helped to rescue the Spanish-Genoan explorer [[Christoffa Corombo]].

[[File:Ezio Rome.jpg|thumb|280px|left|Ezio battles his way to the Sistine Chapel.]]
{{Quote|I thought… I thought I was beyond this. But I'm not. I've waited too long, lost too much – Requiescat in Pace (Rest in Peace), you bastard!|Ezio to [[Rodrigo Borgia]] during his first, failed assassination attempt}}

The following year, in 1499 the assassins finally came together once more at the Villa Auditore, with the Piece of Eden and the completed Codex in hand. Using the two objects, they discovered the location of [[the Vault]] to be under the Vatican, in Rome. Unfortunately for them however, Rodrigo Borgia had become Pope in 1492, although Mario believed he had only done so to gain access to the Papal staff, another of the Piece of Eden’s. Undeterred, Ezio travelled to Rome with a mission to assassinate Rodrigo Borgia. Fighting his way along the entire length of the Passetto di Borgo, Ezio snuck into the Sistine Chapel and struck at Borgia from above. Preparing to deal the killing blow, Borgia surprised Ezio by using the Staff to blast him away and drain the energy of those in the room. Ezio though, possessing the Apple, was safe from the Staff’s effects and the two engaged in a duel; Ezio using the same technique [[Al Mualim]] had in his duel against Altaïr in 1191. The duel ended in success for Ezio once more, though Borgia did manage to obtain the Apple and make his way to the Vault. Outside the Vault, Ezio watches as Borgia tries, in vain, to open it. Laying down his arms, Ezio challenges and defeats Borgia in a fist fight, obtaining possession of both the Staff and the Apple, but refusing to take Borgia’s life.

Entering the Vault, Ezio stood in shock as he was confronted by a hologram-esque individual naming herself "[[Minerva]]", and claiming to be one of "[[Those Who Came Before]]"; Ezio was further confounded when the hologram sought not to speak to Ezio, but through Ezio, to an unseen figure named [[Desmond Miles|Desmond]], before leaving abruptly and Ezio with many questions. At some point after this event, Ezio made his way to Italy once more, this time to liberate his fellow assassins in the country, who were being persecuted by the Templars under the guise of a religious inquisition.

After returning from Rome, Ezio sealed his piece of Eden under the statue of Altaïr at the Villa Auditore.

== Personality and characteristics ==

[[File:QuickTimePlayer 2009-09-25 19-22-34-26.png|thumb|left|286px|A young Ezio gets approached by a Florentine guard after protesting at his father’s and brothers’ execution.]]
{{quote
|1 = Nulla è reale, tutto è lecito. Requiescat in Pace.
|2 = Nothing is true, everything is permitted. Rest in Peace.
}}

Ezio was a young [[Florence|Florentine]] nobleman who lived during the 15th and 16th century. Unlike his ancestor Altaïr, he was a brought up without knowing of the assassins existence; a seducer of women and playful man, Ezio possessed acrobatic skills beyond what most had, save for his brother and father. Having left school at an early age, Ezio was without a formal education, perhaps explaining his playful nature. He came from an affluent background and had many friends until the deaths of his father and brothers drove him out of Florence. Forced to protect his [[Maria de' Mozzi |mother]] and [[Claudia Auditore da Firenze |sister, Claudia]], Ezio became an [[Assassin]], exacting revenge on the conspirators who had betrayed his family and plotted to seize both Florence and Venice. His first victim, Uberto Alberti , the one who sentenced his father and brothers to public execution, was assassinated publicly, forcing the Auditore out of the city and to the town of Monteriggioni, where his uncle resided. At first, Ezio wanted only to stay briefly, wishing to move his family onwards to Spain, and away from those who conspired against him. However after considerable persuasion from his uncle, Ezio decides to remain and exact his revenge upon the Templars as a whole. Aided not only by his uncle [[Mario Auditore da Firenze|Mario]] but also Leonardo da Vinci, Ezio managed to redeem the good name of his family in Florence, portraying the same level of loyalty his father had to the city’s ruler: Lorenzo de' Medici.

Quick to anger, Ezio often allowed his emotions to overcome him, going so far as to disrespect the corpse of Vieri de’ Pazzi just after his death. Eventually however, Ezio did manage to control his anger, and by the time he had become a Master Assassin, could control it almost completely.[[File:Ezio and Lorenzo.jpg|thumb|Ezio conversing with Lorenzo de Medici]]An explorer, throughout his quest Ezio scoured the cities looking not only for the Codex pages, but also to obtain the assassin seals from the [[Secret Locations|six assassins tombs]] spread across northern Italy. After obtaining them, Ezio had access to the [[Altaïr's Armor|black Grandmaster robes]] of his ancestor [[Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad]].

== Equipment and Skills==

[[File:Iexplore_2009-09-25_20-01-09-16.png|thumb|left|300px|An older and more skilled Ezio assassinating two guards at once with the dual-Hidden Blades.]]
Ezio Auditore da Firenze was a highly skilled assassin during the Italian renaissance and a leader amongst the Order of Assassins. A master of multiple fields, including theft, blending, armed and unarmed combat, free-running and long-distance combat; he is able to use a variety of weapons including two [[Hidden Blade|hidden blades]], the longsword, throwing knives and more. As the years progress, Ezio's discoveries of the pages of the codex allowed da Vinci to upgrade his weaponry, including the addition of a wrist gauntlet, wheel lock firearm concealed beneath his left hidden blade, and a poison needle inside the other.

Born with the ability to use [[Eagle Vision]], Ezio could access the ability to instinctively differentiate friend from foe. He also had access to a variety of weaponry and armor thanks to the various blacksmiths located throughout the region; including maces, longswords and daggers.

==Trivia==

[[File:Zw-ezioauditore.png|thumb|right|Ezio's database picture]]
*The Italian name 'Ezio' derives from the Greek word 'Aetos', which means "Eagle", similar to Altaïr whose name means "The Flying One".
*Unlike Altaïr (who had his ring finger removed as a commitment to make way for the [[Hidden Blade]]), Ezio has all ten fingers; a modification to the Hidden Blade made by Altaïr sometime after he defeated Al-Mualim making this possible. Leonardo da Vinci deciphered a Codex Page written by Altaïr on which said modification was illustrated. Instead of removing their ring finger, Assassins now have a mark burned into the ring finger as a sign of their lineage.
*It is stated in the Philosophical Codex that after Altaïr defeated Al-Mualim in 1191 and became the leader, the Assassins were forced to realize the scope of their fight against the Templars, and had to abandon many of their traditions: like the removal of the ring finger and the ban on using poison, in order to survive.
*Ezio also uses a wheellock firearm, based off of a design found in the Codex pages; historically a type of weapon that didn't develop until just after the time-frame of the game, some of the first wheellock firearms were, in actuality, designed by da Vinci.
*Ezio's face in ''Assassin's Creed II'' seems to be a mixture of Desmond's ([[wikipedia:Francisco Randez|Francisco Randez]]) and Devon Bostick's from ''Lineage'' .
*It would appear that Ezio remained unaware of his bloodline, and that he is a descendant of Altaïr, despite learning about him in Monteriggioni. Ezio never truly understood why he was such a successful assassin himself.
*Ezio is 40 years old in 1499 (20 years older than Altaïr's age in 1191); the same age as his father upon his death in 1476.
*If you move the camera to a certain angle in the game, Ezio's face has barely aged, except for the beard, even if you played through 20 plus years of his life. His voice does deepen and mature through time though, making him sound calmer and talks slower.
*Just like [[Altair]] and [[Desmond]], Ezio has a scar on his mouth, acquired after the mission "Boys Will Be Boys", when Vieri De Pazzi threw the rock at his face during the first memory sequence

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Category talk:Candidates for deletion/Archive 1

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'''''Please use this page to discuss pages that have been labeled for deletion.'''''

== Armor - Don't Delete it!!! ==

Altair may not, to the literal extent, have armor, but he does have is multiple tactics and such that 'protect' you, and is that not what armor does? He has his 'social stealth', his inhuman acrobatic abilites, and allies that help him (Vigilantes and Scholars)...I say, don't delete it, jsut say that no LITERAL armor exists, but he does have a multitude of other 'armors' on his side. {{unsigned|Drevas Oril}}

Interesting. Wouldn't a better name be more fitting, though? "Armor" suggests metal plates, or chain mail, not free-running and blending. Someone once suggested an "Abilities" page, to include those and upgrades that Altair gains. Don't be afraid to go out there and do it- by all means, feel free to start something. [[User:Cymbalta|Cymbalta]] 18:00, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

imo, armor has pretty strongly suggests some sort of physical defense, and the water absorbing cloth that Altair wears doesn't seem to qualify. At best I think the armor topic should be a note that no armor exists (so that no new armor pages crop up), then a quick discussion of his other defenses and links to 'em. Personally, I'd rather see it deleted or renamed to defenses or somesuch. --[[User:Tarkisflux|tarkisflux]] 19:18, 26 November 2007 (UTC) '''''UPDATED''''' I added to the armor page along the lines talked about here. Still not sure it's worth keeping, but I think it's better than it was. --[[User:Tarkisflux|TarkisFlux]] 20:11, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:Definitely better then it was. Another strong edit like that, and there won't be a reason to keep the <nowiki>{{delete}} </nowiki>tag. [[User:Cymbalta|Cymbalta]] 20:16, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

I added some more to the armor page, mostly detailing the armor that various soldiers in different cities wear. figure there's enough there now to pull the <nowiki>{{stub}} and {{delete}}</nowiki> tags, so i did :-). --[[User:Tarkisflux|TarkisFlux]] 01:48, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Again, it seems we could compromise here. Keep the page and rename it as Tarkis Flux suggests to "Abilities" or "Defenses". The word "armor" has a wide variety of implications, as Drevas Oril points out. People have "emotional armor" as well, also known as "defense mechanisms" but that doesn't make them metallic or machines...simply machine-like in their employment: automatic. Altair's various defense mechanisms are ingrained in him, because of his training and experience - like breathing. Automatic. May I point out that his very large and metal decorated knife belt and greaves are good for deflecting arrows and lessening the effect of glancing sword blows, but most of those archers can't shoot worth a damn anyway! But yes, most of the public thinks of metal helmets, chestplates, greaves (arm and leg), and chain mail when confronted with the word "armor". --[[User:Maskim xul|Maskim xul]] 23:34, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

==Prince of Persia==
I think the article should be kept but changed (I am willing to do these changes, if somone else agrees) I think the page should have a brief two-three sentance description of hte series, a list of the games (no information on the games just the list) and any similarities worht mentioning between prince of persia and assassins creed can be added to the page, at the bottom we can have an exteranl links and link to the prince of persia wikia (if there is one) and wikipedia's article on prince of persia. [[User:Hunterj|Hunterj]]|[[User talk:Hunterj|My talk]]This is my temporary sig|

I don't think it should be kept. This is the Assassins creed wiki, not the prince of Persia wiki. If we don't delete, users could think they could ad any game and defend it with arguments like: 'King Richard appears in it or There is also an assassin in...' [[Image:WaterTribeEmblem.png|30px]] - [[User:Waterkai|Kai]] - [[User talk:Waterkai|Talk]] 09:37, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

It should be kept. Only because it is Ubisoft. [[User:AC-42|AC-42]] 19:57, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Can we compromise here? Taking Hunterj's suggestions and AC-42's, keep it but pare it down and put a link to a PoP wiki (if there is one). Just mention where the two games cross paths and make it clear that this is the Assassin's Creed wiki...because Waterkai has a valid point. --[[User:Maskim xul|Maskim xul]] 23:22, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

'''Delete''' because it is the wrong wiki. [[User:MacMed|MacMed]] 20:39, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Delete. As said, this is the Assassin's Creed Wiki, not the Ubisoft Wiki. If Prince of Persia is here, makes just as much sense to have a Rayman article. [[User:XPeaceChill|XPeaceChill]] 14:50, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Delete. The two above me are correct. [[Special:Contributions/68.48.225.39|68.48.225.39]] 19:22, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

==Altier==
[[Altier]] Wtf? [[User:AC-42|AC-42]] 17:04, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

==Ezio Auditore de Firenze==
Real article: [[Ezio Auditore de Firenze]] [[User:AC-42|AC-42]] 20:10, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't know that the page itself should be deleted, but perhaps heavily edited. And "Renascientist" or whatever it was??? Yeah. It's "Renaissance". All that aside, it's nice to have a picture of Ezio. I, for one, am happy to see how they incorporated Altair's gear into the 15th century Florentine style. Nice threads. He does deserve a place here - don't you think? --[[User:Maskim xul|Maskim xul]] 23:17, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

yeah, but the artice he's pointing at is a du^licate, but just misspelled. [[Image:WaterTribeEmblem.png|30px]] - [[User:Waterkai|Kai]] - [[User talk:Waterkai|Talk]] 11:54, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

== [[Ps4]] ==

Not related in any way to Assassin's Creed. [[User:MacMed|MacMed]] 20:47, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== Assassin's Creed Assassins ==

This category is being chosen over simply "Category: Assassins" because why exactly? It's REDUNDANT. If they're on this website of course they're assassins from Assassin's Creed. Why put that in there? The current "Assassins" one should be deleted and this new one taking its place should have its name changed to simply "Assassins." [[User:Oddsock|Oddsock]] 15:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

:First of all, please sign in your post with Four tildes. ^^
:Second, why I put it that way? because we're anticipating AC2, with different Assassins of course. So, the plan is to make sub-categories "Assassin's Creed Assassins" and "Assassin's Creed II Assassins" to differentiate the characters and avoid confusion. I'm trying to make the categorizing system as clear as possible. Oh, and I haven't done revamping it btw~ - [[User:SilverSummoner|'''Silver''''''Summoner''']][[User talk:SilverSummoner|''TaLk'']] 15:12, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about the signature thing, I'm still new to using Wiki stuff. I understand the differentiation, but I see no real need for it. Every Assassin, be they in AC1 or AC2, will be revealed as being in either game in their individual articles. If anyone's looking up any assassins, they should be able to recognize them easily by name and find them in that single database. Just saying, I think two separate ones really aren't necessary. [[User:Oddsock|Oddsock]] 15:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

:Assassins here not only refer to Ezio or Altair, but also other minor assassins character such as Malik, Kadar, Al Mualim, and even Rafiq.
:''If anyone's looking up any assassins, they should be able to recognize them easily by name and find them in that single database.''
:What if that "anyone" is someone who doesn't know anything at all bout Assassin's Creed?
:If you're still new to wiki, that means you still new to MediaWiki and all wiki stuff? - [[User:SilverSummoner|'''Silver''''''Summoner''']][[User talk:SilverSummoner|''TaLk'']] 03:17, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm new to editing Wiki and such, but of course I've used Wiki sources before.
"What if that "anyone" is someone who doesn't know anything at all bout Assassin's Creed?"
Thanks for teaching me how to quote, I didn't know the quotes would make something italicized (despite the nice box next to this text window). Now about the question: There are only so many assassins, and if anyone is playing a game and looking up names, they should recognize those names from within the game they are playing. If not, it's likely AC2 Assassin names will be European and AC1's will be Arabic. I am also thinking of my own experience of browsing Wikis for fun, and it's been no problem to me to surf databases of characters or weapons or whatever without having them all divided up into smaller, more precise databases based on which game they're in or any other kind of differentiating factors (I use Fallout 3 Wiki as my primary example). I understand the want to separate characters, but honestly I don't think it's necessary. [[User:Oddsock|Oddsock]] 15:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

:Well then.. what;s your suggestion actually? And I still not very clear of the advantage of having all of the pages squeezed into Category:Assassins. Mind to explain? and what is the disadvantage of the current categorizing system so that it makes you feel that it should be changed? - [[User:SilverSummoner|'''Silver''''''Summoner''']][[User talk:SilverSummoner|''TaLk'']] 13:45, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

My suggestion is, as you just stated, to keep them all in one category or list. What's the advantage? Simplification. What's the disadvantage to two separate categories? Complication. Nobody's getting squeezed, there aren't hundreds or barely even tens of Assassins in the current category. I can't imagine AC2 will add many more. Why differentiate and make someone look harder than they have to? I have a feeling we're at an impasse ("no, we are at an end") and more opinions on the matter are required to make a decision. If the majority thinks that two separate databases is better, then fine, but I'm just sticking with what I think is the right, not-overly-complicated thing to do. [[User:Oddsock|Oddsock]] 20:36, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Complicated? What's so complicated about that? it's just "this assassin's from the first game, thie one is from the second game". What I'm trying to achieve is not complication or what, but accuracy. Look, I have experience with category so I know how annoying it would be (unless if you don't mind the messy categorizing~) when we want to categorize new articles bout new sequel/prequel of the game. I just want to avoid that and get more accurate bout the category. - [[User:SilverSummoner|'''Silver''''''Summoner''']][[User talk:SilverSummoner|''TaLk'']] 07:15, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

The complication, as I said, lies in dividing a category that doesn't need to be split. In my experience with viewing wikis, too many things have been split into small micro-categories, making it hard to look for other related wiki pages without having to click around a bunch. Like I said before, we're not going to agree so let's just see what others say and go with that. [[Special:Contributions/68.48.225.39|68.48.225.39]] 22:55, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

''making it hard to look for other related wiki pages without having to click around a bunch.'' 
eh... you do know that we have navigation bar, right? that thing is created for the sake of easy navigation between pages, just so you know. Moreover, that category needs to be split, because, like I said before, there'll be new games coming around this year and for the sake of neat categorizing and easy updates when we add more pages, those Assassin category should be split. That would be weird and very messy if we split the Assassination Target category, but we don't split the Assassins Category. 

''let's see what others say'' o yea, that should do better. But the problem is, there's almost no one here. [[User:Elecbullet|Elecbullet]] used to edit a lot, but he seems to be taking a wikibreak now. Rather than just debating bout category, I think we should just start editing some pages instead. Your edit count suggest you're really new to wiki editing... - [[User:SilverSummoner|'''Silver''''''Summoner''']][[User talk:SilverSummoner|''TaLk'']] 05:49, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't see why you keep harping at my new account. Regardless of having an account or not I know when and how to spot something that needs editing -- you should keep that in mind. Being new does not always mean being inexperienced. You mention a navigation bar but why force one to have to jump between two categories about people, just in different games? I understand that AC2 is coming out but I really don't think this split is necessary. Look at other wikis like the Halo wiki and you'll see that various categories like characters, weaponry, and vehicles are not split into little per-game categories and they are all still very easy to find and understand.

== Brute ==

[[Brute]] <-- redundant page for [[Brutes]]. 03:40, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
:ah in case you haven't notice, I've turned it into redirect page. - [[User:SilverSummoner|'''Silver''''''Summoner''']][[User talk:SilverSummoner|''TaLk'']] 03:40, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

== Assassin's Logo ==
I don't think this should be deleted, but if we are doing this, we need a clean image of the Assasins logo in AC1 and a clean image of the Assassins logo from the villa, ideally from the flags, '''not''' that concept art image.
:I also think that this shouldn't be deleted. It could give information on the logo. But, we do need a lot of pictures, and good ones too. --''[[User:Silver Mage|Silver]] [[User talk:Silver Mage|Mage]]'' [[User:Silver Mage/Lab|Ω]] 10:19, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

::Agreed that it needs to stay. Its a pretty essential part to the cannon. ([[User:Spikepit|Spikepit]] 11:02, January 8, 2010 (UTC))

I think a section on the [[Assassins]] page is enough for this.--[[User:PhantomT1412|PhantomT1412]] 18:30, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
:Oh wait...you're right. My bad. --''[[User:Silver Mage|Silver]] [[User talk:Silver Mage|Mage]]'' [[User:Silver Mage/Lab|Ω]] 04:04, January 9, 2010 (UTC)