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		<title>Talk:Sef Ibn-La&#039;Ahad</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Tower scene&lt;br /&gt;
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Why we think Sef was conceived in the Acre tower?? what if that was Darim?? [[Special:Contributions/190.253.13.47|190.253.13.47]] 02:29, December 10, 2011 (UTC)Maki-san&lt;br /&gt;
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Because Sef is Desmond&#039;s ancestor, not Darim. [[User:Mercenari|Mercenari]] 02:11, January 25, 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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What I want to know is, if that was Sef being conceived, where was Darim at? With Uncle Malik? [[User:Subject 16 18|Subject 16 18]] 07:52, December 10, 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Uhh, Masyaf perhaps? [[User:Mercenari|Mercenari]] 02:11, January 25, 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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With who though? That would be irresponsible. Leaving a 2 year old to his own vices.[[User:Subject 16 18|Subject 16 18]] 02:40, February 20, 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Masyaf, the home of the Assassin order. Where many people live, many people who could easily look after Darim. Malik was left in charge, maybe it was with him. [[User:Mercenari|Mercenari]] 01:55, February 24, 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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===The name===&lt;br /&gt;
Now, are we just going to ignore the fact the ibn means &#039;son of&#039; and Sef is the son of Altaïr ibn la Ahad? Meaning, his full name should be Sef ibn Altaïr. Ignoring the fact that Ibn-La&#039;Ahad is wrong in the first place, it&#039;s not a even a surname! [[Special:Contributions/88.196.181.241|88.196.181.241]] 12:53, January 28, 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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This has been discussed elsewhere and many times. Yes the naming convention is wrong in Assassin&#039;s Creed, and yet, the in-game database and encyclopaedia refer to Altair and his sons with the &#039;surname&#039; Ibn-La&#039;Ahad, so I imagine the wiki will do the same, for the sake of consistency. [[User:Mercenari|Mercenari]] 10:43, January 30, 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Age ==&lt;br /&gt;
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He died at the age of 27-28, correct? My friend thinks he was 26 when he died.[[Special:Contributions/207.157.117.2|207.157.117.2]] 14:44, May 7, 2012 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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