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&lt;div&gt;Do this and [[Grand Master of the Assassin&#039;s Order]] deserve their own articles? All important information already is on the main factions&#039; pages. This seems kind of pointless to me. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi|Master Sima Yi]] 13:10, June 22, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*A precedent has been set by the [[Novice]], [[Master Assassin]] and other rank/title articles. So I would say yes, unless you&#039;re challenging the other articles as well. --&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#BF404D&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Jasca Ducato|Jasca Ducato]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:Jasca Ducato|Council Chamber]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato|Assassination record]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 02:00, June 23, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m not. Just leave it like this. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi|Master Sima Yi]] 15:46, September 16, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Branches==&lt;br /&gt;
There are several branches of the Templars, as shown in AC II (&#039;&#039;Rodrigo Borgia - Leader of the Italian Templars&#039;&#039;). So it is possible that there was another Grand Master for, say, the English Templars. What would be the best way to mention this in the article? -- [[User:Master Sima Yi|Master Sima Yi]] 15:46, September 16, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re probably right that there are more branches, but I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve seen any source of proof in the games of this. So if this is not mentioned in the game, then I would leave it out. - [[user:Altaïr|Altaïr]] 17:51, September 16, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, there&#039;s the fact that [[Jeanne d&#039;Arc]] was burned by the Templars, probably English, and I doubt that the Templars would&#039;ve gone to Italy right after that all of a sudden. And Rodrigo&#039;s database entry says &amp;quot;Leader of the Italian Templars&amp;quot;. If there would&#039;ve been just one branch, they wouldn&#039;t have needed to say &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Italian&#039;&#039;&#039; Templars&amp;quot;. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi|Master Sima Yi]] 15:55, September 16, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The problem is that we can only speculate about the others. Likely it&#039;s the case that they were united under one Grand Master during the crusades, but split up under several branches afterwards. Maybe because they expanded. But that&#039;s all speculation, which we can&#039;t put it. [[user:Altaïr|Altaïr]] 18:06, September 16, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I know that. But there has to be something that confirms what I said in the game... -- [[User:Master Sima Yi|Master Sima Yi]] 16:13, September 16, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Can&#039;t we just write something like, &#039;The database reveals that Rodrigo Borgia led the Italian Templars. So far it&#039;s unknown who led the other branches.&#039; [[user:Altaïr|Altaïr]] 18:17, September 16, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, as you said, let&#039;s just leave it out since there&#039;s no real confirmation of there being more than one branch. I&#039;ll look for some kind of confirmation once I have my copy back. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi|Master Sima Yi]] 16:19, September 16, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey I wonder... Why were most Grand Masters in the Middle East french?[[User:Le Vulpe|Le Vulpe]] 23:10, October 10, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well it was mostly the English and the French who led the crusades I think --[[user:Altaïr|Altaïr]] 00:13, October 11, 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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hey..wasn&#039;t cesare borgia become grandmaster of templar like his father???why no one&#039;s put his name and pics in the article?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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